I want a thread that actually discusses facts about Obama. You need to understand the following before posting here:
If you support obama in general - You're retarded.
If you are against obama in general - You're retarded.
Every thing Obama said he was, or that you thought he was, is meaningless. Now that he's actually doing things, we can finally decide fairly.
People are capable of both good and bad so we can only support, or dislike, certain actions and/or reactions.
You will quickly notice, your reasons for liking him or not, were probably wrong (both republican newbs and democratic newbs). I will start off with some facts we've discovered:
1. Obama is not really doing any thing with abortion, only talking about it in a neutral way.
2. Obama is actually said he's against gay marriage and is avoiding the subject.
3. Obama wanted to close Guantanamo Bay but never did, I think that sucks that he backed out.
4. He told the Muslims to leave Israel alone and adopt woman's rights, in their own home land, during a speech of his.
I didn't like Obama at first, but now I do. And he's nothing like we all (pop culture) thought so that isn't why. Unfortunately I think even he is to weak to stop the Oligarchy in formation though (all capitalist systems eventually evolve into them). Now, discuss reality, go!