Invalid Acusation! And important must read by Ravallo or Time!OMM must read this post

[Joke[4]Free]

Hello guys.. you maybe know me, i'm Joker4Hack... but my account got banned by Ravallo in this thread: http://www.mpgh.net/forum/165-scamme...ml#post6170724
An MPGH user named BlackBerets acused me that i scammed him, and stole his account Haysus. Now let me explain some important things:

1. I don't know BlackBerets and i don't have any private messages sent to him, or received from him. It's my first time i hear about him.
2. I got Haysus from jeremycubby (also MPGH-er) , we traded and i gave him an account named "FoLeS", now it's not that name because jeremycubby changed it, and also i can proove that i got this account from heremy 2 months ago:

3. I never scammed and i waqnted to sell the account because i quited crossfire..!!! And liked a game on Steam and wanted to buy it from the money i will get after selling... You think i need to scamm?? You see what is the last, at i entered that acc?? Also that date was when i made some screens in-game...
IN MSN I'm "Joker Radu"
Here are the screenshots: (When we traded with jeremycubby)




How you see i went first... if you don't believe ask jeremycubby... he is in my Joker4Hack acount friend list





So here's the proof... And 3 days ago i wanted to sell the account... so Time was online and we started the trade... He verified me through Team-Viewer, and said that everything is fine, and he give me a vouch after the sell... But one problem was that it was my first time selling account through paypal... so i didn't know that the acc must be verified...

here's the screens:







here is another and i think the last proof that the account Haysus i got from jeremycubby in this old post:

http://www.mpgh.net/forum/443-crossf...-accounts.html

NOW I THINK THE REAL JUSTICE MUST BE MADE !
@Ravallo @Time [COLOR="Silver"]

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[/COLOR @Ravallo ,, answer please

[[MPGH]Time]

Okay practically i cancelled the trade since your pp wasn't verified, Now you being banned is because of retrieving the Haysus Account from @BlackBerets , In the trade with him you used Ravallo as an MM , and the trade was successful. Yet you retrieved it and blackberets provided sufficient proof to that , and thus you were banned.

Now that off the hook , This thread actually proves that you did retrieve that account doesn't it?. Explain me the statement " I don't know BlackBerets "

If you didn't know him, obviously you couldn't have traded with him through msn which leads us to not having the screenshots sent by BlackBeret but its not like that is it?

So, Tell me what you mean by that statement.

[Joke[4]Free]

Okay practically i cancelled the trade since your pp wasn't verified, Now you being banned is because of retrieving the Haysus Account from @BlackBerets , In the trade with him you used Ravallo as an MM , and the trade was successful. Yet you retrieved it and blackberets provided sufficient proof to that , and thus you were banned.

Now that off the hook , This thread actually proves that you did retrieve that account doesn't it?. Explain me the statement " I don't know BlackBerets "

If you didn't know him, obviously you couldn't have traded with him through msn which leads us to not having the screenshots sent by BlackBeret but its not like that is it?

So, Tell me what you mean by that statement.

I got the Haysus account from @jeremycubby , not from BlackBerets , so i never chated with him, and like you know , there on his post he didn't posted any screenshots when we traded in MSN... i didn't used Ravallo in any trade i made... in the trade with Jeremycubby i didn't used any OMM's, i went first.
and that was my first trade i made ever.... so i didn't scam anyone... and i didn;t attemped to scam .. + I first time hear about BlackBerets, maybe he was scammed, i don;t know, but anyway not by me, because i don't know him... @Time

[[MPGH]Time]

When did you get the account from jeremycubby?

[Joke[4]Free]

When did you get the account from jeremycubby?

right when he posted his thread 2 months ago here: http://www.mpgh.net/forum/443-crossf...-accounts.html

and also you can see in his succesul trades (in signature) my name "Joker4Hack"

EDIT: and why @Rovallo is not answering?? I mentioned him a lot of times, but he don' answer... Why?? I need his opinion... and my Joker4Hack acc unbanned , because i didn't scammed anyone...it's a lie

@Time

[[MPGH]Time]

Yeah well he isn't available right now , and have patience, we can't just decide whats true and whats not in the split of a second , Sooner or later you will know whats wrong and whats not.

[Joke[4]Free]

Yeah well he isn't available right now , and have patience, we can't just decide whats true and whats not in the split of a second , Sooner or later you will know whats wrong and whats not.

ok... but anyway, do you believe me, that i'm not a scammer? ... or you think like others that i stole the account from thta unknown guy named BlackBerets? @Time

[BlackBerets]

Unknown guy?? Unknown guy!!? @Joke[4]Free Listen I don't give a care what you say, all I know is that my account is GONE and that YOUR SELLING IT.

I'm not the guy walking around trying to ban people for no reason. My account was stolen. Period. Either I get it back from you, from this Jeremy guy, from the Moldovan President, from whoever, for all I care your some little organization stealing peoples property and then sounding innocent and blaming each-other.

Although, you have made one point to me. If this is all true then MAYBE this @jeremycubby guy is the man behind all of this. You have the right to defend yourself. But you failed to do that in the past 24 hours. And no one knows how good you are with Photoshop.

Once again I really don't care, I want my account back. I had valid ownership of it, plenty of proof, and had NO MEANS NECESSARY OF LETTING IT GO.

[Joke[4]Free]

Unknown guy?? Unknown guy!!? @Joke[4]Free Listen I don't give a care what you say, all I know is that my account is GONE and that YOUR SELLING IT.

I'm not the guy walking around trying to ban people for no reason. My account was stolen. Period. Either I get it back from you, from this Jeremy guy, from the Moldovan President, from whoever, for all I care your some little organization stealing peoples property and then sounding innocent and blaming each-other.

Although, you have made one point to me. If this is all true then MAYBE this @jeremycubby guy is the man behind all of this. You have the right to defend yourself. But you failed to do that in the past 24 hours. And no one knows how good you are with Photoshop.

Once again I really don't care, I want my account back. I had valid ownership of it, plenty of proof, and had NO MEANS NECESSARY OF LETTING IT GO.

i don't know you, and i don't care if you believe or not, i didn't stole that account Haysus from you or jeremycubby, i traded it with jeremycubby he gave me that account, and anyway it's your fault that it got stolen, i traded legit with jeremycubby and now you're too late acussing anyone for scamm, because your account could be stolen by a far unknown guy here and he sold this account to another user, than this user traded with another... and now you must think again before acussing anyone or you can get banned ,too... I didn't stole your account, i don't know what time i repeat it here, ... you destroyed my reputation here, Thanks. And anyway, i'm not gonna simply give it to you, because i traded my own account for the Haysus, and you're too late acussing everyone, maybe it's not jeremycubby the one who stealed it, either... Man, i got the proofs, i'm a noob in photoshop, and th last thing that i'm going to say is that i got scammed in my past ,too.. so don't waste time on acussing me, because i got proofs that will show you that i didn't scamm you.

[BlackBerets]

@Joke[4]Free Listen, that's not for me to decide, the MPGH Administrators have the final say. You can be wrong, I can be wrong, it happens. At the end of this they can just ban us both to get this over with. You seem valid in your argument and I don't know how the heck you got back on here if they IP banned you, but I'm happy that this is getting somewhere. All I know is that I don't want this left like this. I want someone to take the blame. I want there to be an action towards this outrage.
@Time @Ravallo is there any way possible of finding out what accounts a person has on this site by checking their IP Address?

If possible it would be great (evidence wise) to get @GamingGrant checked for that reason to see if @jeremycubby or @Joker4Hack are related to him.
@jeremycubby , where in the heck did you get the account Haysus? Are you and @GamingGrant the same person? Did he trade/sell you the account or are you the valid owner of it? Can you show proof of your ownership to it. I think now all the sources are pointing at you for the cause of this.

[Joke[4]Free]

@blackbarets you think right.. but i don't know if they will answer quickly because they are bussy .. but anyway i want to show you that i didn't stole your account + i don't think that jeremycubby is a scammer... he is "Trusted Trader" and a "Donator" so i don;t think he would scamm you, but anyway don;t start acusse him, but first - ask him from whom he got the Haysus acc... It's just my advice...

And about IP Bann, i don't know... ut in the last time i have some internet problems and on some IP Finders it's shown thati live in another country with another IP... idk..

And the last: GamingGrant scammed you?

[BlackBerets]

@Joke[4]Free , yea, I hope this guy is what he looks to be. I'm hoping he DID get it from someone else.

And no, like I explained on my report, @GamingGrant was the guy who originally I traded the account with back in 2011.

I said that he hadn't been active and that I found out you were selling the account so I thought you two were linked.

I had heard nothing about my account for sale or trade, the whole time I was using it. Then one day I log on to find out I can't anymore.

I go on forums and message the guy. He doesn't respond. I find you (Joker4Hack) selling the account. I link him to you thinking "you" were him and that you just made more than one account and was selling then recovering.

Turns out this "black-market" trade-off has been going on long behind my back and only on a specific day had it been decided for the account to be recovered.

I just want to know who the ORIGINAL owner of the account is, because whoever recovered it, is the one to take blame.

If @jeremycubby traded it to YOU at that specific date. That is the date I was still playing and then It was gone. So @jeremycubby is the one.
I'm not making any accusations yet, I would like to see what he has to say about this, for all we know he can just be hiding behind that donator account of his.
@Joke[4]Free I'm starting to believe that your innocent in all of this, if so, then my deepest apologies, I hope @Ravallo would see this and we will see if anything can be done about that account of yours. If this all ends right, and you will still have that account, I'll buy it off of you. If I don't get it back through all of this then I won't stop there. I must have my account back.

I'm sorry for accusing you in the first place. But understand under the position I was in, I was just shocked and I really thought after a whole week of trying to figure out what happened, I thought I had found the one that caused this. I guess I was just too stressed out. I hope you understand.

I just really hope your not lying. I really just can't trust anyone no more.

[Joke[4]Free]

allright... thanks that you believed me, and anyway when all this will end and everything and everyone will calm down, i think i'll sell it to you for 2 games on steam (ionly need 2X Arma 2 Combinated Operations, (it's 24,99$ on steam) that was my price 50$, cuz i want to play Dayz with my friend, and post videos on youtube, because i have my own youtuber gaming channel.... So i don't want to scam anyone, just sell it...


and you said " i want to know who is the ORIGINAL owner of the account" ??? You're not the original owner?

@blackbarets

[BlackBerets]

@Joke[4]Free It's BlackBerets, not Barets lol, and $50? I'll have to think about that. It feels weird buying back an account stolen from me :P

And yes, I wasn't the original owner. I traded for it.

[Joke[4]Free]

Jeremycubby: cubbyjeremy, dreadlord54321, jordanj, loony359, caseyrocks
Joke[4]Free: Joker4Hack, ShOkEr_KiLL, baba443

Here's the detalies .. and the proof that i didn't scamm you
You can check on @Time profile page

(ahh and baba443 is kinda a mistake idk, it's not mine...)

@BlackBerets [COLOR="Silver"]

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[/COLOR @BlackBerets are you there??? Here's the proof...