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    Exclamation Testing Themida with Vscans

    I know you're probably aware of this already, but I might as well document it.

    I got a file and packed it with Themida Demo. I thought I would test both the original and the packed to see the difference between them.

    Here's the original file:
    Virustotal. MD5: d9cdccc00cd8e4b96b37bf56c148cb4b Suspicious.Insight

    Here's the Themida-packed file:
    Virustotal. MD5: 55adfdeda9269e86b3d09b0b297e1101 Suspicious.Insight Heuristic.LooksLike.Win32.Suspicious.K Backdoor.Bot!IK

    Oh and by the way I won't be releasing this file to the public for a while, and if you check the Themida scan you'll see what program it is.

    What do you think about this? /discuss
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    Wow, so this Themedia is a shitty ripoff version of Winrar that puts viruses?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jabuuty671 View Post
    Wow, so this Themedia is a shitty ripoff version of Winrar that puts viruses?
    No, themidia is a tool used to pack hacks, it prevents decompiling and reverse engineering. Baically Stops Leechers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombsaway707 View Post
    No, themidia is a tool used to pack hacks, it prevents decompiling and reverse engineering. Baically Stops Leechers
    Yep, I've even tested decompiling. I've done it with my own code before.

    Packing (like Themida) and compressing (like 7-Zip or WinRAR) are two different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bombsaway707 View Post
    No, themidia is a tool used to pack hacks, it prevents decompiling and reverse engineering. Baically Stops Leechers
    Oh, i see now. h*mm
    So is the FalseVirusScan the Demo versions fault, or the whole software all-in-all?

    Quote Originally Posted by Samueldo View Post
    Yep, I've even tested decompiling. I've done it with my own code before.
    Packing (like Themida) and compressing (like 7-Zip or WinRAR) are two different things.
    Ohh, so Themida is just like something that can secure your hack so it doesn't get altered etc;?
    and when you mean compressing, do you mean zipping/archiving?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jabuuty671 View Post


    Oh, i see now. h*mm
    So is the FalseVirusScan the Demo versions fault, or the whole software all-in-all?


    Ohh, so Themida is just like something that can secure your hack so it doesn't get altered etc;?
    and when you mean compressing, do you mean zipping/archiving?
    1. Yep, Themida is choob-proof.
    2. Compressing, zipping and archiving are all the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samueldo View Post
    1. Yep, Themida is choob-proof.
    2. Compressing, zipping and archiving are all the same thing.
    If you say it's ChoobProof.
    Then how about like mastercoders/hackers/ people who know their way in..
    Like picklockers of .exe files
    They can find a way to get into your hack anyways right?

    Ehh, i was thinking about my post
    If they can find their way in, then they should be able to code their own hacks as well...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jabuuty671 View Post


    If you say it's ChoobProof.
    Then how about like mastercoders/hackers/ people who know their way in..
    Like picklockers of .exe files
    They can find a way to get into your hack anyways right?

    Ehh, i was thinking about my post
    If they can find their way in, then they should be able to code their own hacks as well...
    They won't be able to get into Themida, (so far) there's not a single soul who has or can.
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    You can unpack .exes packed with themidia if it is a certain version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samueldo View Post
    They won't be able to get into Themida, (so far) there's not a single soul who has or can.
    Not true. it can be done it just takes hours and hours of manual labor. so to speak


    Here are some tuts, Note that this is for Themida 1.8 not 2.0



    Source: http://www.mpgh.net/forum/34-assembl...tions-tut.html

    Original Source: http://richie86.*********.com/2008/0...inlicense-18x/
    Last edited by AVGN; 03-21-2010 at 12:44 PM.



    ^Thanks to RJ^




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    And davidrc82 hits the nail right on the head

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSTY View Post
    And davidrc82 hits the nail right on the head
    Fuck.

    On the up side I used the latest version (2.0.4.0) :P
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    I'm pretty sure nobody out there is gonna devote that much time to unpacking, decompiling, reverse engineering an injector...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSTY View Post
    I'm pretty sure nobody out there is gonna devote that much time to unpacking, decompiling, reverse engineering an injector...
    True dat, injectors are a dime a dozen

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSTY View Post
    I'm pretty sure nobody out there is gonna devote that much time to unpacking, decompiling, reverse engineering an injector...
    It would actually be quicker to make your own injector, but if it's that good some people might actually go for it.
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