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    Quote Originally Posted by ModMakerTaker455 View Post
    That is still technically free of charge. Besides, if someone were to report this site, and Dave lives in the U.S., Dave could get in trouble. In fact, Dave could be sued an put in jail, or fined. That's what Nexon is doing with the other big hack websites. Their only problems is that those sites are in other countries and are untouchable by U.S. law. Another reason for SOPA and PIPA. But let's get back on topic. Free OPK is bad. Free Telekill is bad. Free anything that gives you the power to kill everyone without even trying is bad.
    Most of the people with 10,000 posts who actually use the vip closet hack.

    Or troll hack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OxygenLite View Post


    Most of the people with 10,000 posts who actually use the vip closet hack.

    Or troll hack.
    That is exactly the problem. People overusing these VIP hacks like OPK, Telekill, especially Opk, and now people are game crashing more often. Do you know how frustrating it is to not receive your EXP or GP after putting in your time in a game? You could have been doing something more productive. Yes it's just a game, you play for fun, but you also have goals, and how can you reach those getting booted out of games, or opk'd and not having a chance to strive? The game is fun, but what is the point of playing if you get repeatedly kicked, booted, and slaughtered by hackers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModMakerTaker455 View Post
    That is still technically free of charge. Besides, if someone were to report this site, and Dave lives in the U.S., Dave could get in trouble. In fact, Dave could be sued an put in jail, or fined. That's what Nexon is doing with the other big hack websites. Their only problems is that those sites are in other countries and are untouchable by U.S. law. Another reason for SOPA and PIPA. But let's get back on topic. Free OPK is bad. Free Telekill is bad. Free anything that gives you the power to kill everyone without even trying is bad.
    Nexon can't use any evidence here, it's in the ToS that they are banned from even viewing the site and thus breaking the contract of the site, so the judge will dismiss all charges. The site is located in the Netherlands and thus immune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Little View Post
    Nexon can't use any evidence here, it's in the ToS that they are banned from even viewing the site and thus breaking the contract of the site, so the judge will dismiss all charges. The site is located in the Netherlands and thus immune.
    I respect Dave and his business, he has done a great job running this site, and I commend him, but there must be some kind of policy established for damage control on Combat Arms. Think of the effect. Nexon is already trying to get the law involved, but they are helpless as they are stuck in U.S. jurisdiction. If they lose all this profit from players quitting from hackers, they will eventually either close the servers or start charging to play. Just like XBOX Live. I, for one, do not want to pay to play these already great games (under the circumstances they have, such as providing a free gaming experience). My favorite Nexon game used to be Combat Arms, until Alpha vs Bravo became Hackers vs Hackers. Now my favorite Nexon game is Mabinogi. And now their servers are being attacked by modders, for the sole purpose of shutting them down and humiliating Nexon. Nexon support is pretty leniant nowadays, but just think - they are losing business and can't pay their tech support, and if they are getting payed so little money, why bother working hard? You work hard for the big bucks, not to get a pay cut. Hacking is not only affecting the gaming experience, but the economy, and the profit of companies that invest in Nexon (those free Nx Offers), and Nexon itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModMakerTaker455 View Post
    I respect Dave and his business, he has done a great job running this site, and I commend him, but there must be some kind of policy established for damage control on Combat Arms. Think of the effect. Nexon is already trying to get the law involved, but they are helpless as they are stuck in U.S. jurisdiction. If they lose all this profit from players quitting from hackers, they will eventually either close the servers or start charging to play. Just like XBOX Live. I, for one, do not want to pay to play these already great games (under the circumstances they have, such as providing a free gaming experience). My favorite Nexon game used to be Combat Arms, until Alpha vs Bravo became Hackers vs Hackers. Now my favorite Nexon game is Mabinogi. And now their servers are being attacked by modders, for the sole purpose of shutting them down and humiliating Nexon. Nexon support is pretty leniant nowadays, but just think - they are losing business and can't pay their tech support, and if they are getting payed so little money, why bother working hard? You work hard for the big bucks, not to get a pay cut. Hacking is not only affecting the gaming experience, but the economy, and the profit of companies that invest in Nexon (those free Nx Offers), and Nexon itself.
    Nexon buried themselves in the mess in the first place, Nexon America can't do shit, they can't shut the site down, they can't do anything about it. They dug their own graves, if they stop adding shit in the game and focus on fixing shit than people would be supporting them. Even their own community hates them and thinks they are a total failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Little View Post
    Nexon buried themselves in the mess in the first place, Nexon America can't do shit, they can't shut the site down, they can't do anything about it. They dug their own graves, if they stop adding shit in the game and focus on fixing shit than people would be supporting them. Even their own community hates them and thinks they are a total failure.
    Which is why people need to step up and try to help Nexon. I'm trying to get hacking sites to think about the big picture, think outside their profits and see how it affects things. Nexon is a part of the American Economy, which is failing - Do you want more people out of a job because they are losing profits? More and more players are quitting or going on strike from buying Nx from the hacking problem, and yes they should concentrate on it, but they are trying to produce more products to try and get your money. Yes it is ignorant of them, but they are just trying to save their company. I want these large hacking sites to start regulating released hacks more strict, instead of being so leniant - help out Nexon. I'm sure this site is losing profits too because people get Free VIP instead of purchasing it from here.

    I mean look at the support I have already, 6 people for regulating Free VIP, 1 for temp hack release break (which would give time for hackers to improve their BASIC hacks instead of releasing quickly on demand), and 3 for getting rid of hacks altogether. And then there's 8 for keeping VIP hacks. That's 10 for some kind of regulation vs 8 for keeping free VIP, who are probably trolls who don't care about anybody but themselves, or noobs who leech, or people who generally can't afford paid VIP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModMakerTaker455 View Post
    Which is why people need to step up and try to help Nexon. I'm trying to get hacking sites to think about the big picture, think outside their profits and see how it affects things. Nexon is a part of the American Economy, which is failing - Do you want more people out of a job because they are losing profits? More and more players are quitting or going on strike from buying Nx from the hacking problem, and yes they should concentrate on it, but they are trying to produce more products to try and get your money. Yes it is ignorant of them, but they are just trying to save their company. I want these large hacking sites to start regulating released hacks more strict, instead of being so leniant - help out Nexon. I'm sure this site is losing profits too because people get Free VIP instead of purchasing it from here.

    I mean look at the support I have already, 6 people for regulating Free VIP, 1 for hack strike, and 3 for getting rid of hacks altogether. And then there's 8 for keeping VIP hacks. That's 10 for some kind of regulation vs 8 for keeping free VIP, who are probably trolls who don't care about anybody but themselves, or noobs who leech, or people who generally can't afford paid VIP.
    Quit frankly I don't really care about Nexon, if the game busts then they move on to a new project. Nexon got like.. what nine or so games? Like I said, it's their fault. We have a business and so do they. Just ours is more fun and more profitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Little View Post
    Quit frankly I don't really care about Nexon, if the game busts then they move on to a new project. Nexon got like.. what nine or so games? Like I said, it's their fault. We have a business and so do they. Just ours is more fun and more profitable.
    Ironic how we are having this debate as the Republicans are having theirs...

    Anyways, back on topic: So if you create a video game, you're satisfied with it, proud of it, and it turns out to be a big hit, you would be pretty excited right? Then people start looking at your programming, modifying it, changing it, and then play with the changed programming, or 3rd party programs that make the gaming experience what you did not imagine, and makes your players unhappy. So they spam you with complaints and reports, and you need your profit. You take care of the problem, and the next day new hacks come out almost immediately. It bites into your profit and soon you're not making so much because people are quitting from hackers ruining the gaming experience you imagined. How would you feel? Someone leeching business off you, destroying your business in the process? That'd be pretty frustrating to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModMakerTaker455 View Post
    If you actually read instead of skimming, you'd see I said no releasing VIP hacks for free. That would save Dave money because he can charge for VIP instead of letting people toss them out there for free.
    How are you going to stop everyone from releasing VIP for Free?

    Dave would love a free VIP to be released here. He'd make an insane amount of money from it

    MPGH. Better organized & provides a more fun way to play the game





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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post

    How are you going to stop everyone from releasing VIP for Free?

    Dave would love a free VIP to be released here. He'd make an insane amount of money from it

    MPGH. Better organized & provides a more fun way to play the game
    How exactly do you make money from giving out free stuff.? And the thing is, I'm sick of getting OPK'd every game. MPGH is one of the biggest CA hacking sites there is.


    On that note, I bid thee goodnight. School tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModMakerTaker455 View Post
    How exactly do you make money from giving out free stuff.? And the thing is, I'm sick of getting OPK'd every game. MPGH is one of the biggest CA hacking sites there is.


    On that note, I bid thee goodnight. School tomorrow.
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    It is a briliant idea but sadly it wont pass. Im getting tired of being OPK'ed o chammed every single room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModMakerTaker455 View Post
    I think Combat Arms is overrun by hackers. I know this is a hacking site, and it's fun and all, believe me, I know, but sometimes you just need to tune it down, or stop altogether, even if only temporarily. The game is totally messed up now, full of high ranked hackers, and justice is never brought to them. I bring here this "petition," but more of a request to all coders to stop releasing VIP-Grade hacks in public, to at least slow down the hacking. Combat Arms is a good game - don't destroy it with OPK and Telekill and Ghosting and crap like that. It's fun, but there's a line for everything.

    Keep in mind, some people play the game for enjoyment - hacking can bring more fun, but it destroys the surprise and adrenaline of the game. What fun is there in OPKing every room you can get into until you get banned, then making another account (over and over)? It is fun, up to a point, I admit, but where is the line drawn? And why play if your chams ruin the surprise in the game? That takes out a chunk of fun, after a while. Just think about the game for a minute.


    And with my request, you're probably asking, "THEN WHAT DO THE CODERS DO?"
    Well, if they can make hacking programs, they're smart. They can have personal time, or if they really enjoy coding, get a job - make other helpful programs for the computer. You don't always have to make hacks. Plus we have this new bill coming up about to restrict a bunch of websites and cut off hackers and pirates. Do you want Nexon to put in their full support because of hacks? Mods, in my opinion, are not so harmful, especially texture mods. They bring a new unique thing to the game without totally destroying it and giving you a complete edge over other players.

    Just please consider this, and make Combat Arms fun to play again.
    Ive seen several threads like this.
    I dont think you can fight with wave
    Join the hackers and have fun!



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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartAlley View Post


    Ive seen several threads like this.
    I dont think you can fight with wave
    Join the hackers and have fun!
    I've hacked for over 6 months, then I got bored and went legit. Don't tell me to join the hacks and have "fun." There's no true gaming experience in OPKing every game or crashing when someone disses you.
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    It's not going to happen .

    i like to hack the shit out of Combat arms .
    knowing that nexon loses money by people stop playing the game because of hackers makes it even more fun . :3

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