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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperhorse View Post
    You're wrong. I don't believe in God and I'm not an atheist. I'm an agnostic.
    Well that doesn't mean you don't believe in god then it means that you need scientific proof for you to believe. But then again everyone would believe if there is proof. So there comes in where you can believe in what you want to believe in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperhorse View Post
    You can prove god doesn't exist by proving what theists believe as proof for a god (creation of the universe) wrong. Prove that the creation of the universe was not created by a God, and then you disprove everyone's theory of God.
    Theists would dismiss it and say "God did it that way" or "God created the universe to it would work that way".
    My point still stands, you can't falsify an unfalsifiable claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohen View Post

    Theists would dismiss it and say "God did it that way" or "God created the universe to it would work that way".
    My point still stands, you can't falsify an unfalsifiable claim.
    At that point you should just stop trying. If you prove the creation of the universe and people still believe in God we should just not allow them to mate so we get the idiots out of our gene pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohen View Post

    No, that's bullshit. Atheism is the lack of belief in a God, that's it.
    Why does everyone think Atheism is so much more than it is? If you don't believe in God, you're an Atheist. You can believe that unicorns are real, fairies live in your shoes and eat your socks, your soul lives on after your body dies and as long as you didn't believe in a God, you'd be an Atheist.

    Most Atheists are sceptics and don't believe in things such as souls, but that doesn't dictate what Atheism means.
    Wow, I guess you're right. "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods." I always thought it was disbelief in the supernatural overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperhorse View Post
    You can prove god doesn't exist by proving what theists believe as proof for a god (creation of the universe) wrong. Prove that the creation of the universe was not created by a God, and then you disprove everyone's theory of God.
    Basically you're saying "It's irrational to tell those who come up with irrational conclusions that their beliefs are irrational".

    That's almost quite literally your argument.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperhorse View Post
    At that point you should just stop trying. If you prove the creation of the universe and people still believe in God we should just not allow them to mate so we get the idiots out of our gene pool.
    I didn't see this post, but yes. That's the point I am making, if the religious can't even bring themselves to believe in evolution and disregarding all evidence showing its legitimacy, why would a theist believe any evidence of the Universe not being created by a God?
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