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    Quote Originally Posted by Koen View Post
    I'm not, I'm feeling uneasy when we're getting told stuff by a "pro mod hacker" that doesn't even do research on the stuff that he tells us, I mean, if we can't take his word for it, whose can we take? I'll be with TheUser anyways.
    You try being active on mpgh + having exams at the same time.
    If i wont pass these exams, i will be kicked out of my school!
    So stfu, and give me a break.
    And yeah, i know what offsets are, i am not stupid.
    If you want to take it personal, do it by vm/pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dheir View Post
    Yes hacks that are external are safe...... Means BOXESP's. RPM only hacks.
    By safe, I mean they are as safe as they have always been.


    It seems that this guy is trying to insight a riot, while I understand being careful is good, especially around an update time. He has unfounded reasons for saying these read memory process hacks are not safe. He even says DATA offsets have changed.... They have not.
    Sure some of the mem offsets changed. Not all of them, and the ones that did not change are used by RPM, we don't ever touch WPM API's so we dont push val's and offsets to the game that can trigger a ban.

    Let me clarify something. If Valve, Activision, whoever, wanted to know if we were reading their process in memory they would have to either have a ring3 driver installed on our system (which is questionable morally, legally) or hook all running processes and watch for an API call to RPM for their process ( which is also questionable morally, and practically and legally).
    Simply put in some parts of the world that is illegal. They are not going to do it.
    Now to further understand what is going on here....
    If they employed these tactics before, then they could have already caught us.
    So what is the difference if they do it now?
    They did not change their system to do these things... I am 99% sure of it.
    1% because we saw what Sony did a few years ago with rootkits.

    Themonsterman, doesn't sound very knowledgeable in this area to me. Not saying he's not smart and I'm sure he is smart in area's similar to this. But in order for Valve etc to have the ability to see us Read Memory they would have to have employed one of the two options above, or a very similar method. The did not do this. Here is how I see it...
    They have created their executable to contain dummy offsets that proxy real values and also give actual results for WPM hacks. This is to trigger bans for hacks like Catalyst hacks etc. (This is my opinion, remember that). But in no way did the Data offsets change, and even if they had, say there was 2 sets of all offsets, which is ridiculous in practice, and even practicality, then what would be the difference in us reading those values or other values?
    If they can't catch us reading the values.... Then why would they do that? Hence the reason that there is not two values for DATA offsets.
    They can not know that we are reading those values... So hack away with your external hacks. Beware of updates, and don't use hacks after updates unless someone tells you it's OK, and is a knowledgeable person.

    Another thought on this, they don't even have to know what values we are reading, but that we are reading values in their process period... Lots of programs use RPM in their routines, modules etc.... This is too risky to ban for RPM, since someone could be working on a new product like FRAPS, or something similar, they can't mass ban people because they think someone is hacking, they have to know, or a class action lawsuit will ensue. This is my opinion means that VAC2 would have to have a major overhaul, and they would have to have proper detection of hack files, whether that is a CRC or Hash of some kind. The python version of the boxesp has a random module generator, which changes the offsets of our hack everytime it runs.... How can they detect a pattern in that?

    Tbh you dont sound very smart on anything. at least i found out wpm offsets for code has changed i did some RESEARCH .. yes i mean that means i actually check what im going to say before spitting out a essay of useless crap, i dont see any external offsets that have changed. and 195 trainers are also safe to use still.

    Like i said i would want to see proof of the offsets not being changed before you claim it ive never seen a hack from you never seen you code anything or update anything but you assume you can tell if something is safe or not be looking at it and going "meh it looks ok to me *stamp of aproval from the know it all*

    Regardless of the angry attitudes on this site

    WPM Offsets changed but for somereason the old ones still work .. Why ? dont know. could be some kind of detection for the vac that just got updated a while ago or it could be sloppyness.

    ethier way i dont care and wont be replying to this topic anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post


    You try being active on mpgh + having exams at the same time.
    If i wont pass these exams, i will be kicked out of my school!
    hahah we have similar qualities with school exams and schools...
    i usually do small studies over the weeks/months prior to the exams to make my memory fresh, then i can be active on mpgh , works for me..don't know for you...


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    So all the external box esp s are not detected evn the Xp one

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    No , it's not detected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ipwnyou!! View Post
    No , it's not detected.
    You sure did u try it out

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    vac uses delayed bans so you wont know in a day.
    its unknown if the hacks are safe, i would wait for updates

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    alright imma go with wat the MPGH dude says he looks more smart and i dont wanna take the risk to get banned a gain hahahahaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by majarian View Post
    alright imma go with wat the MPGH dude says he looks more smart and i dont wanna take the risk to get banned a gain hahahahaa
    I lol'd at that one /

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUser View Post
    I know but were not sure i suggest evryone to wait tho

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    External is and will stay safe. Vac only bans for memory modifications(and file modifications).
    Ah we-a blaze the fyah, make it bun dem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themonsterman View Post
    Tbh you dont sound very smart on anything. at least i found out wpm offsets for code has changed i did some RESEARCH .. yes i mean that means i actually check what im going to say before spitting out a essay of useless crap, i dont see any external offsets that have changed. and 195 trainers are also safe to use still.

    Like i said i would want to see proof of the offsets not being changed before you claim it ive never seen a hack from you never seen you code anything or update anything but you assume you can tell if something is safe or not be looking at it and going "meh it looks ok to me *stamp of aproval from the know it all*

    Regardless of the angry attitudes on this site

    WPM Offsets changed but for somereason the old ones still work .. Why ? dont know. could be some kind of detection for the vac that just got updated a while ago or it could be sloppyness.

    ethier way i dont care and wont be replying to this topic anymore.
    Your a bloody idiot, you need to remove yourself from this site, you consistently post crap, stop trying to act as if your an authority.
    You have not seen any hack that I have done any work on?
    What is this.....?
    http://www.mpgh.net/forum/191-call-d...1-2-208-a.html

    I'm not going to share offsets with you, because they have not change for RPM. No point to share them. As for sloppyness, that does not make sense, they would have had to purposely left them in.

    To be honest it sounds like you don't have offsets and you are begging for them.

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    i already posted the offset for sendtoconsole for one and my wpm hack is on my site already so i have offsets for my hacks dont worry

    you didnt make shit

    - Special thanks for war3zdude92 and dheir for huge support

    lol?

    give me a break kid.

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