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    Dispute on behalf of StunnahJD

    @StunnahJD was "permabanned" for the "selling of misleading products" as seen here.

    The ban was issued over this thread in which StunnahJD was selling an CS:GO Overwatch Bypass which, at the time, was neither leaked nor patched.

    Upon selling the bypass to @wil0v the bypass managed to find it way over to another forum to be leaked by a member with the same name. Not before that member tried to sell it however. I can't provide proof that he was trying to sell it but from what the posts in the thread say you can probably tell. I can supply staff with a link to the post if need be. Link

    All of a sudden, @wil0v decides to call StunnahJD out, saying that he scammed him because this was a public method. Even if it was a public method, this thread here specifically states that the sale of leaked methods is allowed. It's also ironic that Symmy posted that thread given that this conversation leads me to believe that he's the one who banned Stunnah.

    To add insult to injury, @wil0v decides to again release the method, this time on MPGH itself, once again calling Stunnah a scammer. Link

    TL;DR: Method was sold to @wil0v, who then tried to re-sell the method on another forum, ended up making it public/found out it was public (Who knows exactly) and then called out @StunnahJD for scamming. @wil0v then posted a thread which made the hack public on MPGH and proceeded to go about getting @StunnahJD banned despite @StunnahJD being entirely within the rules.

    This is what I've been told as far, I could be missing crucial info but as of right now, I believe that @StunnahJD was wrongfully banned.

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    @ @Scotia A user made a private report about @StunnahJD
    In the report
    The user showed proof that the method was leaked before and around the time StunnahJD started selling it
    He also showed proof that StunnahJD was misleading him

    The selling of any kind of bypasses are not allowed in MPGH
    and sellers are not allowed to mislead their buyers

    StunnahJD broke both of those rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symmetrical View Post
    @ @Scotia A user made a private report about @StunnahJD
    In the report
    The user showed proof that the method was leaked before and around the time StunnahJD started selling it
    He also showed proof that StunnahJD was misleading him

    The selling of any kind of bypasses are not allowed in MPGH
    and sellers are not allowed to mislead their buyers

    StunnahJD broke both of those rules
    I'll pass the info on, thanks Symmy <3

    Update: The item being sold was not a bypass itself, it was an e-Book detailing how to bypass a system within the game, no external programs are involved.

    As for the misleading part of the ban, what exactly was said that makes you believe that the buyer was mislead, I presume that the person who filed the report was @wil0v?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotia View Post
    The item being sold was not a bypass itself, it was an e-Book detailing how to bypass a system within the game, no external programs are involved.

    As for the misleading part of the ban, what exactly was said that makes you believe that the buyer was mislead, I presume that the person who filed the report was @wil0v ?
    It is related to a bypass .. therefore it is not allowed

    The buyer asked a few question
    StunnahJD wasn't being clear

    It was someone else who filed the report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symmetrical View Post


    It is related to a bypass .. therefore it is not allowed

    The buyer asked a few question
    StunnahJD wasn't being clear

    It was someone else who filed the report.
    http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread...1#post10076140

    As for the misleading answers, could you PM me the name of the guy and Stunnah will provide the logs from that chat, he'll screen share if he has to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotia View Post
    http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread...1#post10076140

    As for the misleading answers, could you PM me the name of the guy and Stunnah will provide the logs from that chat, he'll screen share if he has to.
    Selling bypasses are not allowed anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symmetrical View Post


    Selling bypasses are not allowed anymore
    But at the time that the thread was made there was no rule against selling such a method. Again, the item being sold was not a bypass, it was an e-Book on how to bypass a system, like selling an e-Book that tells you how to not get banned by VAC or Punkbuster, it wasn't an external program or done outside of the game, everything was done in-game without having to alter anything in the game files, the method was done entirely through in-game actions.

    If you have the time, message Stunnah on Skype, he's happy to provide any info that you need that will prove that he didn't mislead any customers: stunnahjdcsgo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotia View Post
    But at the time that the thread was made there was no rule against selling such a method. Again, the item being sold was not a bypass, it was an e-Book on how to bypass a system, like selling an e-Book that tells you how to not get banned by VAC or Punkbuster, it wasn't an external program or done outside of the game, everything was done in-game without having to alter anything in the game files, the method was done entirely through in-game actions.

    If you have the time, message Stunnah on Skype, he's happy to provide any info that you need that will prove that he didn't mislead any customers: stunnahjdcsgo
    http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=898681

    This is the report

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotia View Post


    But at the time that the thread was made there was no rule against selling such a method. Again, the item being sold was not a bypass, it was an e-Book on how to bypass a system, like selling an e-Book that tells you how to not get banned by VAC or Punkbuster, it wasn't an external program or done outside of the game, everything was done in-game without having to alter anything in the game files, the method was done entirely through in-game actions.

    If you have the time, message Stunnah on Skype, he's happy to provide any info that you need that will prove that he didn't mislead any customers: stunnahjdcsgo
    While it isn't in our intention to allow non game related materials for games to be sold, our rules weren't explicitly clear on it and needs to be updated. So this part of the ban shouldn't be a factor, but the rest has to be decided.

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