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    Hook Detected

    Hey guys,

    You don't see me around here very often, but I have a question.
    I have a hack (of my own making, thank you) and it's all working perfectly, it works on any game for any given length of time that doesn't have any AC protection. However I've run into trouble with hackshield. The hook works fine for about 0.30/5 minutes, after that (or after being killed) the game d/c's. I'm sure that ca doesn't signature scan my hook yet because the hack is only 3 days old and because I can stay in-game when the hook is turned off. Do you guys have any idea on how it's being detected?

    Should I change my method (it's a jump right now) or should I move it deeper into the d3d code (it's a mid function already)

    Thanks,
    Last edited by .::SCHiM::.; 05-25-2011 at 01:56 PM.

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    Try packing your compiled .dll with a compressor like mpress or PECompact and then test in game.

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    Prolly Just Your Detour....Single JMP is easily Detected...

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    Quote Originally Posted by whit View Post
    Prolly Just Your Detour....Single JMP is easily Detected...
    Yea but it's mid function, does HC scan every god-dam byte in the d3d functions?

    @NOOB

    It's not signature scanned, it's my detour/hook that's wrong, I'll try though maybe it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOOB View Post
    Try packing your compiled .dll with a compressor like mpress or PECompact and then test in game.
    you do realize once your dll is loaded it is unpacked......if anything virtualizing and adding random instructions and a simple string encryption would be better.


    @ hook ya you can hook lower eventually they may end up scanning the whole function who knows , just always have a plan b , fyi there are alot of functions in sync with drawing, many undocumented but easy to see also engine functions you can draw in

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    My detour is JMP, and works fine...

    With packer not works..

    Without packer = Works Fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNal2F View Post
    you do realize once your dll is loaded it is unpacked......if anything virtualizing and adding random instructions and a simple string encryption would be better.


    @ hook ya you can hook lower eventually they may end up scanning the whole function who knows , just always have a plan b , fyi there are alot of functions in sync with drawing, many undocumented but easy to see also engine functions you can draw in
    For hooks like End3D do they scan the vtable when you enter a game ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulence View Post
    My detour is JMP, and works fine...

    With packer not works..

    Without packer = Works Fine
    On what function do you have your hook, and what method?

    @ALL

    Thanks for the attention too

    EDDIT:

    I'm hooking DrawIndexedPrimitive() btw, for chams
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    For hooks like End3D do they scan the vtable when you enter a game ?
    when i played no , i hooked flipscreen & the console function, no detections

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    Quote Originally Posted by whit View Post
    Your Brazilian so no one cares
    My hack is for Combat arms North America ...
    Combat arms Brazil = Shit..


    Update today, use private :P
    @whit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulence View Post
    My hack is for Combat arms North America ...
    Combat arms Brazil = Shit..


    Update today, use private :P
    @whit
    would you please answer my question, I don't even need to see source:
    On which function have you placed your hook, and with what method?

    And everyone please stay on topic, don't make this into a flame war :O

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    i use Virtual Protect...
    and JMP function!

    i use two methods :
    Detourcreate and after DetourRemove!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbulence View Post
    i use Virtual Protect...
    and JMP function!

    i use two methods :
    Detourcreate and after DetourRemove!
    I mean which d3d function do you hook

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    Polymorphic engine
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    Hooking dynamic linkage
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    Semi debugger




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    Quote Originally Posted by .::SCHiM::. View Post
    I mean which d3d function do you hook
    Is, but this makes with that give DC with Packers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by .::SCHiM::. View Post
    I mean which d3d function do you hook
    He hooks Present & Reset i Believe....

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