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    Just the nail in the coffin, every one listen , then I will comment on the rest

    Under Oath , what does he say his full name is?



    I never said you were stupid, I think (though I said numerous times, I respect you) That you are following a flawed theory, since you first came to this site, I assumed you were logical and respect logical conclusions, you are wrong.

    Micheal Jackson under oath with the threat of jail for purgery is asked, what is your name, he says

    Michael Joseph Jackson, Michael knows his own middle name, It is supported by everything, Documents and everything else. Even his own words.

    Joe is Diminutive

    Example, Legal documents state

    A candidate “may specify that either an initial or a recognized diminutive for the candidate’s given name or middle name, or for both, shall appear on the ballot.”
    This is for any state report filing

    so if the state recognizes your diminutive name as a legal middle name, then what are you talking about.?


    @ article at all experts

    A. Anyone can write a article...

    B. the topic is on many middle names

    IE , I am catholic, therfore even though my real middle name is geovanni , it is actually Rich Geovanni Petro Angelo yada

    Because My Middle name is Geovanni, my Baptism Name is Petro and My confirmation name is Angelo, so according to the church I am Richard Geovanni Petro Angelo Yada

    Does not support anything you said at all.

    @ topic of News Paper , A. They are writing a article on what you believe to be true, they themselves (If a real News Paper, and not tabloid) cannot make thier own assessment , it could count is Libel....but then again, it is UK, but still does not prove Michael Jacksons death as a hoax, it is stating all your theories , and they still are wrong, I came in here because everyone made opinions, and no one shows proof, I have proof, I showed it to you, and you countered with the silliest things....

    Point is , the above video is just one more piece of proof compiled onto the rest, disproves your death certificate theory.

    Balls in your court, What is next?

    Can't really argue his own words can you?

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    some things to remember MJ by

    everybody lies


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    Thats fkin bs ^^^^^^^^^ hes not a child molester -.-

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    GameZones, I don't think he is, but he isn't alive, I like MJ, But that is regardless to this topic, So I say this

    Everyone stay on topic and Don't double post intentionally


    @ Topic, MJL has been in here twice and has not commented on the final definitive proof which audibly shows everyone Michael Jacksons Middle name is Joseph which knocks 90% of their claims right out the window.

    Michael Jackson under oath said his middle name is joseph,

    Which proves the death certificate is legitimate (based on their own assumptions)


    /I Win

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJLover View Post
    My dear Next, things aren't proven the way you are doing.



    I think you better change your lawyer.

    In the United States there is usually only one middle name, abbreviated by its possessor to the middle initial.
    To the MIDDLE INITIAL... not to an entirely different name !!!

    For example: My name is Michael Joe Jackson
    You can shorten it to Michael J. Jackson
    But never change it to Michael Joseph Jackson

    And there may be a real Michael Joseph Jackson in the United States.
    And I am stealing his name.
    This system is used to distinguish people.

    And if they are shortening or changing their middle name, its never ever the same, that would become illegal.

    Middle name at AllExperts

    Again you have proven nothing !!! In fact, you can see here that dutch journalist posted that Michael Jackson is alive !!! http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.c...c_april3rd.jpg

    She read everything Mo wrote and then posted it. You're saying that Mo and I are stupid and our theory is flawed but Is she stupid too and hundreds of other people who thinks the same ?????

    Seriously you making more and more mistakes !!!

    OMG, for the last fucking time, you CAN change your middle name. What the fuck could you not possibly understand about that? I can go change my middle name right now if i wanted to.


    Ok, some dutch tabloid posted he's alive, wooo, cept maybe the fact that its one dutch journalist, and MAYBE just MAYBE its from a site called MICHAELJACKSONHOAX.com, like obvious conspiracy/tabloid site?


    Um, nextgen actually hasn't called you stupid. I do, I personally think your so paranoid and delirious that you can't help but make up shit. Hell, from the looks of things you might even be a compulsive liar. Your so obviously trying to grasp at facts that aren't there its pathetic. I mean seriously, you went so far as to compare the dresses his mother wore on a completely different occasion.

    I mean, we proved you wrong on everything you've brought up so far, and you don't even make a second comment on it.

    Just admit it, you fail.


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    Why cant ppl just accept that MJ is dead?
    everybody lies


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    Point is it doesn't matter if you cna change your middle name or not, what matters is that he can't use the middle name concept any more, he is claiming the Michaels Middle name is Joe and Not joseph , which makes the death certificate false, that can be argued over and over, however, Michael Jackson under oath says his middle name and it is Joseph.


    which again throws that theory out the window, and like I said he has been in here numerous times and I don't think he can even argue it, atleast not without gathering sorts or talking to mo for possible answers, so let's just wait.


     


     


     



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    Next, you are still standing where we started.

    Michael Jackson may be using Joseph before 2001, but not after 2001. The law that said not a minor change will be accepted. And if used, that would be fake. e.g; His will, DC. When after 2001 we hear jury saying "Michael Joe Jackson", that's it !! Nothing more needed, and you can never convince me that what his real name is !!!

    Anyways, lots and lots in this hoax is double. It was a long-term plan. Believe me.

    # O2
    # 2 MJ’s at O2 press conference in London (stage-mike and curtain-mike)
    # Dr. Tohme Tohme
    # 2 MJ’s at Ed Hardy
    # 2 video’s of the coroner’s van
    # 2 different video’s from helicopters transporting the body to the coroner
    # 2 Death Certificates
    # 2 passports from MJ leaked
    # 2 different middle names: Joe and Joseph
    # 2 alledged son’s (Omer Bhatti and Jett Jackson)
    # 2 ‘wives’ (Claire Cruise and Billie Jean Jackson)
    # 2 Memorials (private and public)
    # Mike’s posessions removed out of 2 houses
    # 2 tribute’s (Jermaine & Frank Dileo)
    # 2 Last Will’s (1997 & 2002)
    # Murray video was place twice at Youtube (was taken off once ant put back)
    # Mike signed the AEG contract twice
    # Rumor has it that Mike has 2 ss#
    # 2 autopsies
    # 2 different MJ hairstyles (straight and curly)
    # 2 strange guys showing up in front of the camera at the livestream of TMZ (PT Barnum circusguy and Afro-head-Elvis)
    # 2 Harvey’s (Harvey Levin – TMZ & Craig Harvey – Coroner’s Office)
    # 2 tourist busses at Carolwood Drive making footage of Ambulance
    # 2 names for fatal medicin (Promofol/Diprivan)
    # 2 trucks to empty Carolwood Drive
    # 2 guardians appointed by Mike in his will (Katherine and Diana Ross)
    # 2 former business partners appointed executers of the estate
    # 2 versions of 911-call (one with and one without address mentioned)
    # Michael’s 2 tigers in the news due to the Caloforia fires
    # 2 raids at Carolwood Drive
    # Rehearsal footage from 2 days (performance + chewing gum guy)
    # 2 opinions about Mike’s Health/General appearance)
    # 2 different ways to preserve the body (embalming and deep freeze)
    # 2 locations for public memorial (Staples and Nokia)
    # 2 UPS guys during the raids
    # 2 nurses involved (Cherilyn Lee and Debbie Rowe)
    # 2 doctors interrogated (Arnie Klein and Conrad Murray)
    # 2 female employees of Murray picking up boxes at storage morning of MJ’s ‘Death’ (lalagirls)
    # 2 ‘Deathbeds’ (MJ bed and Doc’s bed)
    # 2 memorial programs (one for invited, one for fans)
    # Burial postponed twice
    # 2 sisters to take care of the kids (Janet and Rebbie)
    # 2 familymembers talking about foul play (LaToya and Joe)
    # 2 raids on pharmacies (Vegas and LA)
    # 2 persons calling cops for protection (Arnold Klein & Debbie Rowe)
    # 2 stories concerning time of death (one death at arrival EMT’s, other death at hospital)
    # This Is It 2 weeks in theaters
    # 2 final resting places (Grand Mausoleum and Freedom Mausoluem)
    # Brother carry casket twice (memorial and burial)
    # 2 books to be released about MJ (Moonwalker and ‘Coffeetable Book’)
    # 2 Singers announced to perfom on MJ’s funeral (Gladys Knight and Aretha Franklin)
    # 2 memorial dates (it was delayed)
    # 2 Hatmans at memorial
    # 2 This is It teaser trailers
    # Dave Dave at Larry King Live

    @ Topic, MJL has been in here twice and has not commented on the final definitive proof which audibly shows everyone Michael Jackson's Middle name is Joseph which knocks 90% of their claims right out the window.
    Sometimes you were here and not answered that time.
    Fact: My internet was having problem, that's it.
    Fact: You haven't proven that his legal name is Joseph yet !!!!
    Fact: Latest audible words by jury say that his legal name is Joe. Was it hard for jury to say "Joseph", as they did in 1993 trial !! ???

    /I Win
    Sadly not, you will win when you will prove that he is dead. Watch the title of the thread. You are anti-title and have to disprove that !!!!

    @Hamza: May God have mercy on you.

    God bless you GaMeZoNEs for speaking the truth !!!

    The charges doesn't suite his personality. They chose the wrong man and now have to pay for that. It's just a matter of time. Please be patient.

    Period.
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    ext, you are still standing where we started.

    Michael Jackson may be using Joseph before 2001, but not after 2001. The law that said not a minor change will be accepted. And if used, that would be fake. e.g; His will, DC. When after 2001 we hear jury saying "Michael Joe Jackson", that's it !! Nothing more needed, and you can never convince me that what his real name is !!!
    A. No, Michael Joseph Jackson used a simplified middle name ever since he was young, he did this because he wanted to be an individual , His fathers name is joseph , so he wanted to use Joe

    and he did for as long as anyone can remember



    But his Legal Middle Name is Joseph , Just as stated on the stand, plus you said (though others disagree) that You CANNOT change your middle name.

    By saying before 2002 and after 2002 yada yada yada yada , your becoming self refuting in a attempt to conform yet again to the obvious



    Anyways, lots and lots in this hoax is double. It was a long-term plan. Believe me.

    # 2 MJ’s at O2 press conference in London (stage-mike and curtain-mike)
    # Dr. Tohme Tohme
    # 2 MJ’s at Ed Hardy
    # 2 video’s of the coroner’s van
    # 2 different video’s from helicopters transporting the body to the coroner
    # 2 Death Certificates
    # 2 passports from MJ leaked
    # 2 different middle names: Joe and Joseph
    # 2 alleged son’s (Omer Bhatti and Jett Jackson)
    # 2 ‘wives’ (Claire Cruise and Billie Jean Jackson)
    # 2 Memorials (private and public)
    # Mike’s posessions removed out of 2 houses
    # 2 tribute’s (Jermaine & Frank Dileo)
    # 2 Last Will’s (1997 & 2002)
    # Murray video was place twice at Youtube (was taken off once ant put back)
    # Mike signed the AEG contract twice
    # Rumor has it that Mike has 2 ss#
    # 2 autopsies
    # 2 different MJ hairstyles (straight and curly)
    # 2 strange guys showing up in front of the camera at the livestream of TMZ (PT Barnum circusguy and Afro-head-Elvis)
    # 2 Harvey’s (Harvey Levin – TMZ & Craig Harvey – Coroner’s Office)
    # 2 tourist busses at Carolwood Drive making footage of Ambulance
    # 2 names for fatal medicin (Promofol/Diprivan)
    # 2 trucks to empty Carolwood Drive
    # 2 guardians appointed by Mike in his will (Katherine and Diana Ross)
    # 2 former business partners appointed executers of the estate
    # 2 versions of 911-call (one with and one without address mentioned)
    # Michael’s 2 tigers in the news due to the Caloforia fires
    # 2 raids at Carolwood Drive
    # Rehearsal footage from 2 days (performance + chewing gum guy)
    # 2 opinions about Mike’s Health/General appearance)
    # 2 different ways to preserve the body (embalming and deep freeze)
    # 2 locations for public memorial (Staples and Nokia)
    # 2 UPS guys during the raids
    # 2 nurses involved (Cherilyn Lee and Debbie Rowe)
    # 2 doctors interrogated (Arnie Klein and Conrad Murray)
    # 2 female employees of Murray picking up boxes at storage morning of MJ’s ‘Death’ (lalagirls)
    # 2 ‘Deathbeds’ (MJ bed and Doc’s bed)
    # 2 memorial programs (one for invited, one for fans)
    # Burial postponed twice
    # 2 sisters to take care of the kids (Janet and Rebbie)
    # 2 familymembers talking about foul play (LaToya and Joe)
    # 2 raids on pharmacies (Vegas and LA)
    # 2 persons calling cops for protection (Arnold Klein & Debbie Rowe)
    # 2 stories concerning time of death (one death at arrival EMT’s, other death at hospital)
    # This Is It 2 weeks in theaters
    # 2 final resting places (Grand Mausoleum and Freedom Mausoluem)
    # Brother carry casket twice (memorial and burial)
    # 2 books to be released about MJ (Moonwalker and ‘Coffeetable Book’)
    # 2 Singers announced to perfom on MJ’s funeral (Gladys Knight and Aretha Franklin)
    # 2 memorial dates (it was delayed)
    # 2 Hatmans at memorial
    # 2 This is It teaser trailers
    # Dave Dave at Larry King Live
    Looks like you have discovered a 2 theory, like your 7 theory just more extensive....

    There was only one Michael and several doubles, lots of stars have doubles, non are planning death. Just a bunch more of ha ha

    Fact: You haven't proven that his legal name is Joseph yet !!!!
    Yes I have, He was asked under oath, and he said Joseph....HE SAID JOSEPH!!!!

    Fact: Latest audible words by jury say that his legal name is Joe. Was it hard for jury to say "Joseph", as they did in 1993 trial !! ???
    These are the words of the juror, not MJ, again, many call me rich, my full name is richard, does that mean my "legal Name" is rich because people don't call me richard....

    Sadly not, you will win when you will prove that he is dead. Watch the title of the thread. You are anti-title and have to disprove that !!!!
    Yes I do, And yes I did, everyone in here will agree with me, you don't get any more compelling then being asked your legal name under oath, and responding "Joseph", If anything he said after that affidavit and oath , he can go to jail for purger y, so he responded with his legal full name.








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    Looks like you have discovered a 2 theory, like your 7 theory just more extensive....

    There was only one Michael and several doubles, lots of stars have doubles, non are planning death. Just a bunch more of ha ha
    Oh God, how can you be so ignorant Next, how ???

    Ok, the performer is 1. Agree and everyone knows, but what about the other 2 things ??? Prove them wrong or just accept them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By just saying it a discovery you are showing how speechless you are !! So pathetic man so pathetic !!!!!!!!!!!

    These are the words of the juror, not MJ, again, many call me rich, my full name is richard, does that mean my "legal Name" is rich because people don't call me richard....
    Oh my, so wouldn't the jury have taken oath from him 2nd time (In 2nd trial) ???????
    Why didn't the jury called him by his simplified name 2nd time ????

    What is this non-sense ???


    Yes I do, And yes I did, everyone in here will agree with me, you don't get any more compelling then being asked your legal name under oath, and responding "Joseph", If anything he said after that affidavit and oath , he can go to jail for purger y, so he responded with his legal full name.
    Your under oath thing just debunked !!!!!!!!! So next time come with some thing else !!!

    We know that he responded with his full legal name on the 2nd trial. Michael Joe Jackson. And that's his latest legal under oath full name !!! That's it !!

    You are debunked !! Ha ha !!

    /I win and people with mind know it.
    /Your theory kicked out of the town !!!

    Soon, I am going to have a final laugh on you !!!
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    MJ is dead!

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    I don't mind if he's dead or not.

    I just think so like him sooo much that you can't allow yourself to believe it and you keep denying that he had died.

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    Thread is full of faggots, morons, narutards and buttsecks.

    Can you quit this already?

    I'm online/unbanned like 2 hours a week, and this thread already annoys me, I think you broke some kind of world record.
    If you do not want to accept that he is dead, DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!
    Go outside and scream as loud as you want, you can even do it inside, but not, NOT on MPGH.

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