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    Naruto Tournament - Round One (Tobi vs Jiraiya)

    Today bout will between Tobi vs Jiraiya

    - We discuss the pros and cons of each character.
    Chakra / Techniques / Intelligence
    - We will include past victories into account.
    - We will include who they lost to.
    - We will include ability to work alone.
    - We will include the ability to work in a team.
    - We will not include personality

    With all the information we are to run a simulation of the fight (within our minds and thread)

    The Vote will be done one a different thread with the other bouts going on in the first round.



    Tobi

    VERSUS


    Jiraiya


    *This thread will not be used to take up the votes.
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    Last edited by KING; 09-13-2012 at 04:33 PM.

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    Tobi has the kamui and rinnegan, he could easily avoid Jiraiya's attacks and can defeat him easily. BUT if Jiraiya goes in toad moad =D It would be a 52% chance of Tobi winning.

    l2spell Jiraiya.

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    Pervy sage, simply because of the abilities listed.

    Tobi isn't strong anyway.


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    Actually seeing this fight come down to a long drawn out fight. As of now, I see Tobi as a one trick pony. He can phaze in and out as he pleases.

    Maybe it would come down to a giant wait out battle, and since Jiraiya can't stay in Sage mode forever, Id give the victory to Tobi.
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    Remember, Tobi has all the abilities pain had, and Pain only ALMOST got defeated because he underestimated Jiraiya's ability to do genjutsu. (Which he didn't even do, the toads did.) Tobi can also become intangible AND use the other Rinnegan abilities as well

    It would probably be a close fight, but Tobi would probably win IMO.

    (I think Jiraiya is a MUCH better character though.)








     





















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    From what I've seen so far, Tobi would probably win. His rennigan would be the only way Tobi could proabably beat him

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotbud123 View Post
    Remember, Tobi has all the abilities pain had, and Pain only ALMOST got defeated because he underestimated Jiraiya's ability to do genjutsu. (Which he didn't even do, the toads did.) Tobi can also become intangible AND use the other Rinnegan abilities as well

    It would probably be a close fight, but Tobi would probably win IMO.

    (I think Jiraiya is a MUCH better character though.)
    Problem is that Tobi would be fighting 1v1. His use of the rinnengan has so far not been with mutiple people such as pein.

    Phasing in and out would be a decent run for the pervs money, but in the end there is just too many abilities that the sage has that tobi could not counter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Problem is that Tobi would be fighting 1v1. His use of the rinnengan has so far not been with mutiple people such as pein.

    Phasing in and out would be a decent run for the pervs money, but in the end there is just too many abilities that the sage has that tobi could not counter.
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    What do you mean? Could you elaborate a little bit more? I get what you're saying with him not having the paths vision and etc. But what abilities of Jiraiya's do yo mean?

    (Not trying to be condescending at all, I would like Jiraiya to win, so any idea you have as to why he would, would be sweet.)








     





















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    I change my mind. Jaraiya would win. Jaraiya knows a shit load of jutsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Problem is that Tobi would be fighting 1v1. His use of the rinnengan has so far not been with mutiple people such as pein.

    Phasing in and out would be a decent run for the pervs money, but in the end there is just too many abilities that the sage has that tobi could not counter.
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    Well the big problem is the phasing. Only way to hit him while he phasing is to tele-port something to his dimmesion or massively trick him i guess with genjustu.

    Whats stopong Tobi from just caving in his alternate dimension.

    Someone explain to me what happened between Konan and Tobi. She hit him by letting of a massive explosive for a real long time amirite?
    Maybe Jiraya could duplicate that effect?

    Just throwing info outhtere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KING View Post
    Well the big problem is the phasing. Only way to hit him while he phasing is to tele-port something to his dimmesion or massively trick him i guess with genjustu.

    Whats stopong Tobi from just caving in his alternate dimension.

    Someone explain to me what happened between Konan and Tobi. She hit him by letting of a massive explosive for a real long time amirite?
    Maybe Jiraya could duplicate that effect?

    Just throwing info outhtere.
    Kakashi is the only one other than Tobi who has access to that deminsion. Jaraiya don't know any genjutsu.

    but this is a battle indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotbud123 View Post
    What do you mean? Could you elaborate a little bit more? I get what you're saying with him not having the paths vision and etc. But what abilities of Jiraiya's do yo mean?

    (Not trying to be condescending at all, I would like Jiraiya to win, so any idea you have as to why he would, would be sweet.)
    The vision wasn't like Neiji or Pein. It depended upon eyes from a different point of view, which is why pein had an added bonus with 6 people.

    Tobi can't actually use the rinnengan like midara/pein can, and he can't cancel out jutsu's.
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    So far tobi has no real higher-level techniques for offense that itachi/midar/sasuke posses, all he has is the portal and phase.

    While this is a problem, giving him the win for "theory" is kind of lame. Its like saying aizen could never lose in bleach because of his power. If you gave tobi the win just because he can phase, you might as well give him the win for every fight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    The vision wasn't like Neiji or Pein. It depended upon eyes from a different point of view, which is why pein had an added bonus with 6 people.

    Tobi can't actually use the rinnengan like midara/pein can, and he can't cancel out jutsu's.
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    So far tobi has no real higher-level techniques for offense that itachi/midar/sasuke posses, all he has is the portal and phase.

    While this is a problem, giving him the win for "theory" is kind of lame. Its like saying aizen could never lose in bleach because of his power. If you gave tobi the win just because he can phase, you might as well give him the win for every fight.
    Its lame but it would work. Phaze in and out until Jiryaha can't keep sage mode/ chakra levels.

    It seems to me that Tobi could keep phazing for allot longer than Jirayha cant stay SageMode.

    So its a dead even heat. Due to time constraints Tobi would have edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Problem is that Tobi would be fighting 1v1. His use of the rinnengan has so far not been with mutiple people such as pein.

    Phasing in and out would be a decent run for the pervs money, but in the end there is just too many abilities that the sage has that tobi could not counter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingernig View Post
    Izanagi.

    All I have to say.
    He'll also become blind :< I think temporally tho

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