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    Naruto Tournament - Round Two (Itachi vs Pain)

    Today bout will between Itachi vs Paen

    - We will discuss the pros and cons of each character.
    Chakra / Techniques / Intelligence
    - We will take past victories into account.
    - We will include who they have lost to.
    - We will include their ability to work alone.
    - We will include their ability to work in a team.
    - We will not include personality.

    With all the information we are to run a simulation of the fight (within our minds and thread).

    The Vote will be done one a different thread with the other bouts going on in the second round.

    Itachi


    vs


    Pein


    *This thread will not be used to take up the votes.
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    Hmm, of the top of my head these are the Pro's of each.

    Pain
    - 6 Paths
    - Great teamwork
    - Rinnegan
    - Has 6 paths (Tendo, Summoning, etc)

    Itachi
    - Great Taijutsu
    - Superior Genjustu
    - Tsukoyomi
    - Susano'o
    - Amaterasu
    - Fire Style expert

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    I'm not sure if Itachi Genjustu would work on a Rinnegan users.

    And I don't think he used it on Edo Nagato but maybe it doesn't?

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    I mean it goes: Sharingan --> Mangekyo Sharingan --> Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan --> Rinnegan.

    The rinnegan is an evolution of the EMS but I don't think it's excluded from Genjutsu.

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    Pain, hands down.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero View Post
    Pain, hands down.
    Do Explain

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    Itachi.

    Better strategy, powers would bypass peins defense(if not eventually), and generally just a higher player.

    The rinnengan is called better than the sharingan, but so far in the series it has been the sharingan ahead of all the other eye techniques.


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    Itachi would win.

    Pretty easily. Itachi has a great mind and knows how to plan techniques and such.

    Techniques he would use:
    Susanoo
    Sword of totsuka whatever is it
    Yamata shield
    Izanami

    Those techniques will easily beat Pain. Pain may have the rinnegan but his use of it isn't as clever as itachi uses his jutsus. Using sword of totsuka to easily rip Nagato's soul out.

    So Itachi wins for me.

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    How does Itachi Bypass push/pull ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KING View Post
    How does Itachi Bypass push/pull ?
    "Crow Clone"? And if does manage to get pushed back, he can use Amaterasu on Tendo pain. Considering the flame can't be extinguished, he'd be burned alive. And the other 5 he can handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De La Ghetto View Post


    "Crow Clone"? And if does manage to get pushed back, he can use Amaterasu on Tendo pain. Considering the flame can't be extinguished, he'd be burned alive. And the other 5 he can handle.
    Your down grading the omega living shit out of the push/pull. IDK if its becuase you think it to basic of a technique or what. But when Pain Pushes/destroys Konoha, Everyone including there clones if they made any are gone. Clones don't mean shyt to the push pull effect.

    *Pushes Itachi and Amaterasu.
    or
    Itachi uses Amaterasu/ Pein counters with Naraka Path (absorbs ifinite amount of chakra)


    I think you guy forget the only reason Nagato lost was due to Plot/Talk/Story no justu.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KING View Post
    Your down grading the omega living shit out of the push/pull. IDK if its becuase you think it to basic of a technique or what. But when Pain Pushes/destroys Konoha, Everyone including there clones if they made any are gone. Clones don't mean shyt to the push pull effect.

    *Pushes Itachi and Amaterasu.
    or
    Itachi uses Amaterasu/ Pein counters with Naraka Path (absorbs ifinite amount of chakra)


    I think you guy forget the only reason Nagato lost was due to Plot/Talk/Story no justu.....

    Susanoo

    Yata shield/mirro.

    SWORD OF totsuka

    all those 3 make Itachi invincible. His Yamata shield will deflect the push back to pein

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingernig View Post
    Susanoo

    Yata shield/mirro.

    SWORD OF totsuka

    all those 3 make Itachi invincible. His Yamata shield will deflect the push back to pein
    Show me an example of the shield pushing back something. I think that just myth over hype talk. Susano itself is the same all over (except the sword that cats genjutsu), it just forms into the shape of the shield and a sword. Just to make it simple for our simple minds. Shield doesn't necessarily reflect everything...

    And if he was so indestructible, why did he he lose to Sauske with it...Because it uses way to much chakra(to the extent Itachi died of exertion) and is extremely slow and avoidable.

    Pein on the other hand can simply push you and your Susano away (and pain has a shitload of shit omega chakra-comparable to Naruto in 8 tail form)/

    And why did it take Itachi Naruto Bee to beat the one Nagato....(Rinnegan is OP as fuck, thats why).

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    This is honestly a very hard choice.

    Yeah, you could argue that Itachi beat Nagato after he was revived by the Edo Tensai, but that was because his body was frail and slow.

    During their prime, this is a very hard choice to make. I don't think Izanami would affect Nagato. Izanagi (if Itachi can even use it) can only be used twice before he's blind. (Once if he wants to keep his vision). Genjutsu COULD work if Pain doesn't see it coming, but I'm pretty sure he would from a Sharingan user. Amaterasu and Susano'o are the only real trouble he's going to have to deal with. BUT, he can outrun the sword of Totsuka, probably absorb Amaterasu, and counter in many ways.

    It would probably be a close fight, but I would have to go with Pain.








     





















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    Quote Originally Posted by KING View Post
    How does Itachi Bypass push/pull ?
    Its got a 5 second window.....


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