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    Quote Originally Posted by scotbud123 View Post
    It is a similar concept, if you think otherwise, you're much more stupid than I thought.

    We've already been over this about 9001 times, it's not WHAT happens as much as HOW it happens. Also, I'm pretty sure no one saw Obito ACTUALLY being Tobi coming, people were making such extravagant theories, no one can truly say they saw this coming.

    Your link is broken, just like your logic, gg.

    It's actually targeted towards older teens, but it shows how much you know about Shonen's in general.
    Again, scot even HERE we called obito being tobi. Its not that much of a surprise honestly. And people were making those theories because they expected more out of a series that gets more cliche and boring by the chapter. I mean really, the 3 choices were what? Izuna, Obito, and some other guy. Its not even surprising that its obito, and the flashbacks are just there to fill out the chapters.

    Take out the space dumbass.

    No, naruto's target audience is deffinitely younger teens. The morals, the characters, and the bad guys are meant for a younger audience. Not to mention the lack of any adult material.

    The fact that its audience is majority wise kids also kind of shows.
    *you for instance*
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    Also, it is what happens not how. Because in naruto, you can essentially skip the minor details and get to the same ending. Hell you could probably read 1 out of 4 pages every chapter and still get the majority of the story down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    The fact that its audience is majority wise kids also kind of shows.
    *you for instance*
    This is where you instantly lost any sort of ground you had (which wasn't a lot).

    Nice use of an ad hominem, sucks that means you have no actual debate. GG








     





















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    Naruto has somewhat some gore in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotbud123 View Post
    This is where you instantly lost any sort of ground you had (which wasn't a lot).

    Nice use of an ad hominem, sucks that means you have no actual debate. GG
    .................................................. ..................You thought I was debating?

    I was more or less just messing around. If you really are going to pull the "ad hominem" thing, feel free. I get bored of white knights after a time anyway.

    If you want I can formally start a debate on whether naruto meets current anime/manga standards, is a good anime, or I could start a naruto vs. another series thread.
    -I think naruto vs one piece would be interesting, I'll probably do that.
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    Look scot, If you don't want to continue, just say so. Don't be a pussy.


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    Naruto is a kid tv show because it shows on kid tv channels...

    Most real anime aimed for older teens normally wouldn't be aired across the world, all the major ones get dubbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingernig View Post
    Naruto is a kid tv show because it shows on kid tv channels...

    Most real anime aimed for older teens normally wouldn't be aired across the world, all the major ones get dubbed.
    Yeah, the DUBBED version does, the dubbed version is also dubbed down.

    That's like saying One Piece sucks when you've only watched the 4Kids dub (which was an abomination), it doesn't make sense.








     





















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    Quote Originally Posted by scotbud123 View Post
    Yeah, the DUBBED version does, the dubbed version is also dubbed down.

    That's like saying One Piece sucks when you've only watched the 4Kids dub (which was an abomination), it doesn't make sense.
    I'd say one piece is a bit kiddish too...

    a guy eats a fruit

    and gets the power to be elastic-like..

    i mean...

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    comon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingernig View Post
    I'd say one piece is a bit kiddish too...

    a guy eats a fruit

    and gets the power to be elastic-like..

    i mean...

    ..
    comon..
    I'm not defending OP, I really couldn't care less. My point is, compare the OP sub to the OP 4Kids dub, the amount of censorship is too damn high. Same thing applies with Naruto (not nearly as much), but it still happens. Saying that Naruto is a kids show because it plays on "kids" channels in America is just plain dumb.








     





















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    Quote Originally Posted by scotbud123 View Post
    I'm not defending OP, I really couldn't care less. My point is, compare the OP sub to the OP 4Kids dub, the amount of censorship is too damn high. Same thing applies with Naruto (not nearly as much), but it still happens. Saying that Naruto is a kids show because it plays on "kids" channels in America is just plain dumb.
    :/ It plays on kid channels in japan. The english dub of naruto wasn't censored by any crucial amount like it was

    Your point is kind of well.....moot?
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    Plays on kids channel, majority of watchers are kids, and its generated towards kids as kishimoto said himself.

    I don't know what else you need for proof.
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    Naruto doesn't surpass too many shonen even for kids rating lol.


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    Can you guys take it to the PM/VM? You guys just argue constantly every week when a chapter comes out.

    @Empire @scotbud123

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Sheldon Cooper View Post
    Can you guys take it to the PM/VM? You guys just argue constantly every week when a chapter comes out.

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    Meh what does it matter. There is more flashbacks/filler in naruto than there is actual story.

    You got what, 3-4 more chapters of flashbacks?(if kishi doesn't go back to the dragged out fight).

    :/ What, you going to discuss an even that we already know the outcome of?
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    I mean really, what hasn't been discussed a thousand times over already? The series has such a vague plot you could guess some cool things could happen. But whats going to happen? Completely boring and obvious outcomes, with completely boring and pointless flashbacks.

    I mean we are on what, the fith chapter of flashbacks?

    Its amazing really, because its just drags.........and drags........and drags.

    In a show with such a below-average story, its amazing how much talking they do and how often fighting is only 5-10% of the actual content of a FIGHTING chapter.
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    Well the flashback is like necessary for the question that's on everyone mind.

    Now we know that Tobi's Obito, now we want to know WHY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Sheldon Cooper View Post
    Well the flashback is like necessary for the question that's on everyone mind.

    Now we know that Tobi's Obito, now we want to know WHY.
    Sure we do. Thats always the question. But the point is: why do we need a flashback?

    Its not like flashbacks are the only way to tell the story, or that they need to be done in the middle of a fight.(itachi for instance).

    Honestly its just lazy writing. If you depend on flashbacks for every little explanation, you aren't doing it right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Sure we do. Thats always the question. But the point is: why do we need a flashback?

    Its not like flashbacks are the only way to tell the story, or that they need to be done in the middle of a fight.(itachi for instance).

    Honestly its just lazy writing. If you depend on flashbacks for every little explanation, you aren't doing it right.
    That is true unless he wants us to go with the story without knowing whats going on. Bad technique but ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Sure we do. Thats always the question. But the point is: why do we need a flashback?

    Its not like flashbacks are the only way to tell the story, or that they need to be done in the middle of a fight.(itachi for instance).

    Honestly its just lazy writing. If you depend on flashbacks for every little explanation, you aren't doing it right.
    i mean I sort of agree with you, but don't you think Obito explaining everything to Kakashi in the middle of the fight is any better? THAT'd be dragging out the fight as Naruto and Guy have no clue what's he talking about and Madara was IN the story, so he already knows what's happening.

    So a flashback would be the best choice for this situation.

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