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    [Help] Buying a new PC

    Okay, so, I have decided to buy an Alien Ware x51, I know they rip me off with the prize of the components etc, but I don't mind it.

    Here are the specs:
    Processor Help Me Choose
    Intel® Core™ i7-2600 3.4GHz (8MB Cache) with Hyper-Threading and Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
    Operating SystemHelp Me Choose
    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
    Memory5
    8GB6 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333Mhz - 2 DIMMS
    Hard Drive Help Me Choose
    Up to 1000GB5 SATA hard drive (7200RPM)
    Optical Drive
    Slot-Loading Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW) (Standard)
    Slot-Loading Dual Layer Blu-ray Reader (BR-ROM, DVD+-RW, CD-RW)
    Video CardHelp Me Choose
    1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 545
    1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 555
    WirelessHelp Me Choose
    DW1502 Wireless-N WLAN Half Mini-Card
    Sound Card
    Internal High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio with WAVES MAXX Audio (Standard)
    Ports
    Front I/O Ports
    (2x) Hi-Speed USB 2.0
    (1x) Microphone In
    (1x) Headphone/Speaker Out

    Rear I/O Ports
    (1x) On-board HDMI 1.4 Output
    (1x) RJ-45 Gigabit Ethernet
    (4x) Hi-Speed USB 2.0
    (2x) SuperSpeed USB 3.0
    (1x) Front Left/Right Speakers
    (1x) Center Speaker
    (1x) Rear Left/Right Speakers
    (1x) Side Left/Right Speakers
    (1x) SPDIF Digital Output (TOSLINK)
    (1x) SPDIF Digital Output (Coax)
    Chassis
    Physical System Dimensions
    Height:
    Front-Height: 13.504" (343mm)
    Rear-Height: 12.54" (318.5mm)
    Depth: 12.52" (318mm)
    Width: 3.74" (95mm)
    Starting Weight: 12.1 lbs (5.49 Kg)

    Color
    Matte Stealth Black with Dark Chrome Accents

    Processor and Core Architecture

    Processor Cooling
    Alienware™ High-Performance Air Cooling

    Chipset Architecture
    Intel® H61 Express Chipset

    Motherboard Class
    Mini-ITX Motherboard

    Software

    Alienware Command Center
    AlienAdrenaline
    AlienFX™
    AlienFusion

    Software Personalization Options
    AlienFX™ System Colors
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    Power

    Alienware™ 240 Watt Power Supply (Standard)
    Alienware™ 330 Watt Power Supply










    So, my question is:

    Will it be able to run games such as CoD MW3, LoL, BF3 etc fine? I don't need to max out the settings, as long as it doesn't look like sh*t.

    Also, will it be able to record with fraps and play at the same time (Lower settings than normal playing doesn't matter). Can it render videos in Sony Vegas Pro?

    Because that's what I am looking for. You can actually replace the graphics card so when it gets outdated I could do that.

    Please help me



    PS: Link to this PC (The Highest Priced Model), Hope this is OK as it isn't a download outside link:
    New! Alienware X51 Desktop

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    for that price you should have a graphics card that's at least a gtx 560

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    I know you're dutch, you should check out this website, it gets you thesame stuff, but lots cheaper:
    ALTERNATE. Hardware - Software - Entertainment

    If you need any more help in building your pc, just let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    I know you're dutch, you should check out this website, it gets you thesame stuff, but lots cheaper:
    ALTERNATE. Hardware - Software - Entertainment

    If you need any more help in building your pc, just let me know.
    I'll forward this suggestion, I've bought from the German Alternate in the past and they have some pretty decent deals. If you need help choosing parts just leave me a message or make a thread in the hardware section, I'm sure I can find something awesome for that kind of money.

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    I'll check this site out.

    I have no idea though how to combine these parts etc

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    This pc is nice, but yeah like @iverson954360 sed you need atleast a GTX560 or recommed is a GTX580

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    Quote Originally Posted by KamielFTW View Post
    I'll check this site out.

    I have no idea though how to combine these parts etc
    Dont worry assembling a computer is like a 4 pieced puzzle everythind fits somewere, if you need any help picking the parts ask @Alen
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    Why not build your own computer.

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    dude build your own pc,it's way better than buying an assembled pc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamielFTW View Post
    I'll check this site out.

    I have no idea though how to combine these parts etc
    As said, gimme your budget and I'll cook something up. As for actually building it - easy as fuck. You have loads of online tuts, videos etc. and if you ever need more info just message some hardware enthusiast from MPGH for help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    As said, gimme your budget and I'll cook something up. As for actually building it - easy as fuck. You have loads of online tuts, videos etc. and if you ever need more info just message some hardware enthusiast from MPGH for help
    @Alen I have 1100 euros in budget.

    I want to be able to do stuff on it as explained on the OP.

    Basically, The best I can get for this budget












    EDIT:

    So, I have definitively decided to build my own. Now is the question, Which parts would I need? I'll use sites like

    http://www.alternate.nl/html/topseller.html?tn=HARDWARE

    So far, I have chosen the i7 core, because that's basically all I know, what you need.

    Could any of you guys give me the best setup I could get for about 1100-1200 euros? I don't really have a budget, It must be somewhere around the 1100-1400 euro. 1400 really is a MAX though. 1100 is already much for me so 1400 really is the max, which I might not even be able to pay. It is possible though.


    Sorry for letting you do this job, maybe you like doing it though
    I'm just not that into the computer building stuff, only the specs really.


    I can order from any website, preferred Dutch/UK/Europe sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamielFTW View Post
    @Alen I have 1100 euros in budget.

    I want to be able to do stuff on it as explained on the OP.

    Basically, The best I can get for this budget
    Actually fuck Alternate, they practically already have pretty much the same PC I would suggest for that kind of money: ALTERNATE

    Only thing I would change is perhaps the motherboard, everything else is spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    Actually fuck Alternate, they practically already have pretty much the same PC I would suggest for that kind of money: ALTERNATE

    Only thing I would change is perhaps the motherboard, everything else is spot on

    Wait wut.

    So you're saying that this Alternate thing is pretty much the same as the Alienware x51 (The premade PC that is)

    The Alienware x51 though has an i7 processor, the Hercules here only has an 1.5

    On the other hand the Alienware has a GTX 550 and the Hercules a GTX 560..


    Then my question is, if you buy this Hercules, and replace the i5 processor with an i7 processor, will it make difference? I mean, the budget will stay around 1100 then. Then it's pretty much the alien ware but with a GTX 560




    I wrote this Wordpad file, with the parts I possibly will get in my PC then.

    Code:
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    GRAFISCHE KAARTEN:
    =========================
    
    GIGABYTE GV-N580UD-15I 						€464,-
    De GV-N580UD-15I van GigaByte is gebaseerd op de NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Chip en beschikt over 1536 MB GDDR5 Geheugen dat via een 384 bit brede interface aangesproken wordt. De GPU heeft een kloksnelheid van 795 MHz en het geheugen een snelheid van 4008 MHz. 
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Grafische_kaarten_NVIDIA_PCIe/GIGABYTE/GV-N580UD-15I/518305/?baseId=700007
    
    MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr III 15D5 Power Edition/OC	€519,-
    De N580GTX Twin Frozr III 15D5 Power Edition/OC van MSI is gebaseerd op de NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Chip en beschikt over 1536 MB GDDR5 Geheugen dat via een 384 bit brede interface aangesproken wordt. De GPU heeft een kloksnelheid van 810 MHz en het geheugen een snelheid van 4008 MHz.
    De N580GTX Twin Frozr III 15D5 Power Edition/OC valt onder de zogenaamde 'Military Class II' GPU's, door de gebruikte materialen voor onder andere de Solid State Choke's en de condensatoren. Dit betekend dat de N580GTX Twin Frozr III 15D5 Power Edition/OC beter tegen hoge en lage temperaturen bestand is, waardoor deze een langere levensduur heeft en verder kan worden overklokt.
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Grafische_kaarten_NVIDIA_PCIe/MSI/N580GTX_Twin_Frozr_III_15D5_Power_Edition-OC/616783/?baseId=700003
    
    =========================
    HARDE SCHIJVEN:
    =========================
    Samsung HD204UI  (2000 GB, 32 MB Cache) 			€119,90
    De HD204UI van Samsung heeft een opslagcapaciteit van 2000 GB en een cache van 32 MB. De 3,5 inch SATA harddisk is voorzien van een Serial ATA/300 interface.
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Harddisks_3,5_inch_SATA/Samsung/HD204UI/471783/?articleId=471783&
    
    Samsung HN-M101MBB (5400 rpm, 8 MB Cache			€92,90
    De HN-M101MBB van Samsung heeft een opslagcapaciteit van 1000 GB, een toerental van 5400 rpm en een cache van 8 MB. De 2,5 inch SATA harddisk is voorzien van een Serial ATA/300 interface.
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Harddisks_2,5_inch_SATA/Samsung/HN-M101MBB/564509/?articleId=564509&
    
    =========================
    BEHUIZINGEN:
    =========================
    Sharkoon Scorpio 1000  						€64,90
    De Scorpio 1000 van Sharkoon is een stijlvolle Midi-tower, met vier externe 5,25", drie interne 3,5", twee 3,5" fast swap en vier interne 2,5" inbouwsloten. De behuizing, bied plaats aan een vijf à zes case-fans, waarvan er twee zijn mee geleverd.
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Behuizingen_Midi_Tower/Sharkoon/Scorpio_1000/466745/?baseId=699754
    
    
    Aerocool Vx-R LE 							€67,90
    De Vx-R LE van Aerocool is een Midi Tower met plaats voor een ATX voeding. De behuizing beschikt over vier externe 5,25", één externe 3,5", vier interne 3,5" inbouwsloten, welke toolless zijn ingericht, heeft 7 Full Size slotopeningen, welke toolless zijn ingericht en heeft 2 slangopeningen voor waterkoeling.
    De Vx-R LE wordt geleverd met drie casefans en biedt plaats aan één extra casefan. De behuizing biedt plaats aan grafische kaarten met een lengte tot 290mm.
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Behuizingen_Midi_Tower/Aerocool/Vx-R_LE/383197/?baseId=699755
    
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    PROCESSORS:
    =========================
    Intel® Core™ i7-2600K 						€289,-
    De Intel® Core™ i7-2600K CPU, codenaam "Sandy Bridge", beschikt over vier verwerkingseenheden en is geschikt om op een moederbord met Socket 1155 te plaatsen. De processor beschikt over 4x 256 KB Level 2 en 8192 KB Level 3 cache en werkt op een snelheid van 3400 MHz met een HyperTransport bus van 5000 MT/s. De Intel® Core™ i7-2600K beschikt over een interne geheugen controler, met twee geheugen kanalen en bevat een Intel® GMA HD 3000 interne Grafische Chip.
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/CPUs_Socket_1155/Intel(R)/Core_en_trade_i7-2600K/483760/?articleId=483760&
    
    
    ========================
    (BEHUIZING MODS:)
    ========================
    OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W 					€52,90
    De ModXStream Pro 500W van OCZ is een ATX voeding en levert een vermogen van 500 Watt met een efficientie van 86%. Deze voeding heeft één 135mm Fan ingebouwd. Verder beschikt hij onder andere over 4x 5,25" molex, 6x SATA, 1x PCIe 6 pins en 1x PCIe 6+2 pins aansluitingen.
    http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Voedingen_tot_600_Watt/OCZ/ModXStream_Pro_500W/288514/?articleId=288514&






    I don't get this anymore. Should I get this alien ware, or should I get this Hercules with an other processor, or should I build my own from the alternate site~..

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    Quote Originally Posted by iDarkness View Post
    This pc is nice, but yeah like @iverson954360 sed you need atleast a GTX560 or recommed is a GTX580
    I recommend an AMD Radeon 7970.
    Around the price of a 580 and more better.

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