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    Carbon vs Cetera vs Le Bot vs MYST REALM

    In reference to this thread: http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1126175, which one do you guys prefer the most as of now? Carbon 1.8 made by @D.V or Cetera made by @133spider or Le Bot 8.4 made by @JamesRo or MYST REALM 1.3 made by @Timii? Discuss.
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    I've always liked Le Bot more than everything simply because it's very easy to understand and use. Too bad it doesn't get updated anymore

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    Alright here's a break down of the pros and cons of each trainer.

    LeBot
    Pros:
    Simple and basic interface
    Still the most widely used trainer
    Serves most basic needs

    Cons:
    Lack of support (So it might become outdated upon the server reset)
    No advanced functions
    Many auto bots built in the trainer are outdated

    General Overview: A decent trainer which still holds up quite well in terms of functionality

    Carbon
    Pros:
    Simple and basic interface (along with hotkeys)
    Auto bots are up to date and working (with a exception of a few)
    Has some advanced functions built within the bot manager

    Cons:
    Lack of support (only auto bots are getting updated)
    Bot manager is often glitchy in some areas (ex: Tercess)
    Advanced functions are limited

    General Overview: A great trainer which is more updated than LeBot in some aspects (ex: Shop loader and auto bots)

    Cetera
    Pros:
    Constant updates
    Flexible advanced functions
    Other features that had been abandoned (ex: item loader and chat editor)
    A cool UI

    Cons:
    Very intimidating UI and can turn off beginners easily
    A lack of auto bots
    Somewhat buggy (mostly fixed in revision #4)

    General Overview: An amazing trainer with tons of potential and can easily defeat LeBot and Carbon in almost every aspect, however the complete absence of auto bots makes it a bit undesirable for people who want to start botting immediately.

    Final Conclusion: Cetera>Carbon>LeBot

    While LeBot and Carbon are good choices, Cetera completely blows both of them out of the water in many areas. Also due to the lack of support for LeBot/Carbon, they could possibly become outdated when the server reset occurs.

    EDIT: I didn't include MYST REALM, because it's pretty much a unfinished demo.
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    Le Bot is my favourite still, and I'll just quote what I said from the other thread
    Yeah of course it is. Tbh fundamentally, Le Bot and Carbon both originate from Dark Mystic (By Mystical). And some of DM's code would've originated from even further back (but I'm not gonna go there). The game changed quite a bit however, and James worked hard to adjust to all of these changes. When James' releases slowed down, Carbon kind of stepped in (using the DM source, and James' code) and D.V. made some new features he thought were needed.

    The point I'm trying to get across is that in my opinion, AQW hacking has basically been one huge open-source project. There were the originals, and certain people have kindly taken up time to improve and build on the code over the years. The only thing that has really changed is the name of the project... but everyone has done some code 'stealing' from previous versions of the project (apart from the original author/s) to create their own.

    Sorry I don't know if that was ramble, hope it makes sense. Basically, in reality, there's hardly any difference between Le Bot and Carbon based on their foundation, it's just what the individual coder has chosen to do with that foundation.
    Without intending to offend anyone, I don't believe claims of Cetera being 100% recoded.
    Myst Realm has one of my favourite UIs, I've always loved Timii's designs, but it does lack certain features and the beautiful simplicity that Le Bot has.
    Anyway, in the end, goes back to the fact that each coder has their own preferences. I like them all

    -Edit- @ToxLP After I've tested your project, I hope it can be released here, it certainly has something very new that's never made botting quite so accessible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliboli8769 View Post
    Le Bot is my favourite still, and I'll just quote what I said from the other thread


    Without intending to offend anyone, I don't believe claims of Cetera being 100% recoded.
    Myst Realm has one of my favourite UIs, I've always loved Timii's designs, but it does lack certain features and the beautiful simplicity that Le Bot has.
    Anyway, in the end, goes back to the fact that each coder has their own preferences. I like them all

    -Edit- @ToxLP After I've tested your project, I hope it can be released here, it certainly has something very new that's never made botting quite so accessible.
    You really love Le Bot, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    You really love Le Bot, don't you?

    I do, but I also like to give credit where I feel it's due

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    You really love Le Bot, don't you?

    I do, but I also like to give credit where I feel it's due

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliboli8769 View Post

    I do, but I also like to give credit where I feel it's due

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    I do, but I also like to give credit where I feel it's due
    Alright, fair enough then.

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    Bump it up! C'mon, guys! Let's get the discussion going!
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    Personally my most used bot program when i started was le bot and preferred it to all the other bots even now but funny enough since i started to farm for nulgath house i was using just carbon and actually like using carbon now. I haven't created a box in over 2 years now but I know i can easily relearn it but I only use cetera just because of fast travels and I have a bank pet but it's a good thing to have since not everyone has one. Mystic can't remember much of it tbh been so long but I did enjoy it and correct me if i'm wrong but it also did have fast travels. Right now besides personal opinion the best bot would be the le bot sharer(I forgot its name). The one where you can actually upload bots that people make and share it. In theory it would be the best because it constantly updating the auto bots but the problem might occur with which bots becomes just a repeat or someone being a jerk and putting a pocket spamming and the second you load it bam you're banned. Man this is long have fun reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaspingArrow9 View Post
    Personally my most used bot program when i started was le bot and preferred it to all the other bots even now but funny enough since i started to farm for nulgath house i was using just carbon and actually like using carbon now. I haven't created a box in over 2 years now but I know i can easily relearn it but I only use cetera just because of fast travels and I have a bank pet but it's a good thing to have since not everyone has one. Mystic can't remember much of it tbh been so long but I did enjoy it and correct me if i'm wrong but it also did have fast travels. Right now besides personal opinion the best bot would be the le bot sharer(I forgot its name). The one where you can actually upload bots that people make and share it. In theory it would be the best because it constantly updating the auto bots but the problem might occur with which bots becomes just a repeat or someone being a jerk and putting a pocket spamming and the second you load it bam you're banned. Man this is long have fun reading.
    Yeah ToxLP had a really cool idea with that release. That release was only a test run and based on its popularity I believe ToxLP plans to work on it more, which I'd love to see.
    The only problem, as you say, is people misusing the upload feature. But I'm sure a little moderation can avoid that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliboli8769 View Post
    Yeah ToxLP had a really cool idea with that release. That release was only a test run and based on its popularity I believe ToxLP plans to work on it more, which I'd love to see.
    The only problem, as you say, is people misusing the upload feature. But I'm sure a little moderation can avoid that
    Well its doing pretty well but some people are spamming the Add Bot which is the AE White Hats according to the Database anyway yea i might be continuing the project

    Also spam packet can easily be checked before adding to all the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxLP View Post
    Well its doing pretty well but some people are spamming the Add Bot which is the AE White Hats according to the Database anyway yea i might be continuing the project

    Also spam packet can easily be checked before adding to all the people.
    Ah right I haven't seen that. Maybe the bots have to be approved by you before they appear? But then that might be quite a bit of work.
    And yeah you're right, things like a packet spam can be prevented.

    Edit - lol actually what am I thinking, just make it so people can only add one bot at a time. Whitehats won't have time to reopen the application a million times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxLP View Post
    Well its doing pretty well but some people are spamming the Add Bot which is the AE White Hats according to the Database anyway yea i might be continuing the project

    Also spam packet can easily be checked before adding to all the people.
    Yeah, I hope you don't stop working on it, at least not any time soon.
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    Although Le Bot was my first bot for AQW, coming here and finding Carbon made me think it was one of the best out there, the UI and self satisfying "cheat menu" brings more entertainment and easier usage aside from certain things preventing this from being a good beginner trainer. Then again, trying out all of these, I'd say

    Carbon>Cetera>Le Bot>Myst

    Reasoning for this is carbon has recent bots and an easier interface than cetera, le bot is still a wip with recycled bots, no insult intended, and Myst is, like another said, a demo as it still needs more work.

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    le bot is and will always be the greatest. Cetera is impressive, and I like carbons auto bots

     


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