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    Suggestion New rules for SOTW?

    ok as most of you know SOTW is more a popularity contest than art , how about these rules?
    1)all the entries should be pmed to the competition host .
    2)Entries cannot be CnC'd nor showed in any of the forum's sectors.
    3)the vote thread should be blind meaning u don't add names for who made this nor the tag include the name of the artist.
    4)Voting should be with a poll , and the poll include only the images (dunno if we can do that here).
    5)u cant notify which is your signature , and artists included in the competition don't have the right to vote (host will know).
    6)DQs should be immediate.
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    I agree with all of these suggestions. A lot of times what happens is someone is voted for, and then people just follow the trend because they know other people voted for them.

    It should be a poll like you said, where you can't see who was voted for until you vote.

    This would be much more fair and there would be more competition.

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    it was once like this, didnt work.
    i dont agree.
    its retarded imo.. cuz most of all know who's pieces there are..we know each others style's

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    1) I personally don't want to go through tons of PM's. No.
    2) This has never really been an issue, not many people change their entries after they post them in showoff.
    3) I understand the purpose is to eliminate bias, but there isn't a ton of that.
    4) Polls fail. You would think it wouldn't be easy to cheat, but we don't really have anyone who can edit polls who cares enough to keep an eye on it.
    5) This kind of ties in with #3, you can't have one without the other. And everyone has the right to vote, unless stated otherwise.
    6) DQ's are inevitable if there are to be any, it doesn't really matter when it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    1) I personally don't want to go through tons of PM's. No.
    2) This has never really been an issue, not many people change their entries after they post them in showoff.
    3) I understand the purpose is to eliminate bias, but there isn't a ton of that.
    4) Polls fail. You would think it wouldn't be easy to cheat, but we don't really have anyone who can edit polls who cares enough to keep an eye on it.
    5) This kind of ties in with #3, you can't have one without the other. And everyone has the right to vote, unless stated otherwise.
    6) DQ's are inevitable if there are to be any, it doesn't really matter when it happens.
    1)u dont need to be the host xD
    2)this to eliminate the editing
    3)FFX does that and its going great
    4)so the problem u say is the hosts fail?
    5)artists dont have the right to vote , its like "hey i vote for u , and u vote for me so its like we both voted for ourselves"
    6)errr ... in many situations its evaded
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantazy View Post


    1)u dont need to be the host xD
    2)this to eliminate the editing
    3)FFX does that and its going great
    4)so the problem u say is the hosts fail?
    5)artists dont have the right to vote , its like "hey i vote for u , and u vote for me so its like we both voted for ourselves"
    6)errr ... in many situations its evaded
    No one wants to deal with 8 fucking pages open when copying the BB code for a votingners thread, nor does anyone want that shit spamming their inbox. That's why we never did it but once.
    No one edits, and no one would care if they did. This isn't a legitimate GFX site, so it doesn't matter. The majority of the people who post don't take advice regardless.
    I don't care what FFX does, that's their system.
    No, hosts don't fail, that idea fails because only GM's and higher can edit polls, but no GM or higher gives two shits about this section.
    That makes no fucking sense, if I vote for Doc, I'm not voting for myself. I'm voting for Doc. With the rule of the vote team, which preserves legitimacy, the best piece wins 100% of the time.
    What's evaded? People that need to be DQ'd? Ya, sure, by not counting their entry. Doesn't really matter if it's taken care of immediately or later as long as it happens.

    Now if you want to keep arguing, send me a PM.

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    These are good idea, but like Ryan said, there isn't enough bias here.

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    The vote team should be re-established.
    That I agree on 100%.
    That system was perfect,
    there was never ever arguing over anything,
    because the majority of the people on the team knew their shit.

    The issue with the vote team at this moment is this:

    There aren't enough active people that can legitimately tell good from bad.
    I'm not pointing fingers, or saying names.
    Just telling it the way I see it.

    What should happen is that a small panel of maybe 3 people are chosen.

    It should be gfx team members,
    if gfx team members wish to compete in the SOTW,
    Then a replacement panel, or individual members are picked to fill the empty panel spots.
    This would be the most effective way to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The vote team should be re-established.
    That I agree on 100%.
    That system was perfect,
    there was never ever arguing over anything,
    because the majority of the people on the team knew their shit.

    The issue with the vote team at this moment is this:

    There aren't enough active people that can legitimately tell good from bad.
    I'm not pointing fingers, or saying names.
    Just telling it the way I see it.

    What should happen is that a small panel of maybe 3 people are chosen.

    It should be gfx team members,
    if gfx team members wish to compete in the SOTW,
    Then a replacement panel, or individual members are picked to fill the empty panel spots.
    This would be the most effective way to do this.
    I agree. One way or another I think it should change. Having a vote team would mean legitimate, and good judging.

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    anon always fails
    if u werent a newph you would know this, anyone except the retards (hence most of the gfx section) can tell who made what
    and polls suck my dick
    reason is the only way or the voting is shit, the vote team was the best though
    and FFX may do polls, but ffx is unbiased, and dont go telling ryan and me shit bout ffx, we both rep there


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyConservative View Post
    I agree. One way or another I think it should change. Having a vote team would mean legitimate, and good judging.
    we know wat it means
    we had one
    i made it , it was the last thing i did before i lost gfx
    so dont go getting ur newphag ass around telling us wat will and wont work


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantazy View Post
    ok as most of you know SOTW is more a popularity contest than art , how about these rules?
    1)all the entries should be pmed to the competition host .
    2)Entries cannot be CnC'd nor showed in any of the forum's sectors.
    3)the vote thread should be blind meaning u don't add names for who made this nor the tag include the name of the artist.
    4)Voting should be with a poll , and the poll include only the images (dunno if we can do that here).
    5)u cant notify which is your signature , and artists included in the competition don't have the right to vote (host will know).
    6)DQs should be immediate.
    /discuss
    lol yea nice sugestions but i saw them somwhere
    i think on gfxforums.net...right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyConservative View Post
    I agree. One way or another I think it should change. Having a vote team would mean legitimate, and good judging.
    yeah that too would be nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrcrw View Post
    we know wat it means
    we had one
    i made it , it was the last thing i did before i lost gfx
    so dont go getting ur newphag ass around telling us wat will and wont work
    No need to rage...

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