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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    As of 2009 a meta-analysis of psychological studies by Abbie Goldberg showed that there are no harms to gay parenting both physically and psychologically (No harms greater than that of straight parents). In fact she goes on to argue that gay parenting may result in more accepting and socially healthy children.

    Let's say we ignore the statistics for a moment and thinking about the children instead. Would you prefer that a child stays in an orphanage as opposed to being brought up by gay parents? If there are no harms to gay parenting then why would this be for any other reason than your own prejudice? I would prefer that both straight and gay couples got to adopt children you know why? Because more children will be adopted... so that more children can grow up feeling like someone loves them instead of sitting in an orphanage just hoping that someone eventually comes along and sees them as worthy.
    How would this kid be treated if it had two gay male parents?
    which one would he call mum and dad?(sarcasm)
    The other parents wouldn't let their children near him.
    and they would laugh at his 'parents'
    Also,their attitude towards sexes would be onesided.
    and I don't think his parents would teach him anything about girls,or boys in case of a lesbian.
    They might make that kid into a homosexual,since kids usually copy their parents.
    certainly,orphans are not having a good time.
    but man.I try to imagine what if I had two 'dads' or something.
    and it's not so nice.
    socially accepting?more like turning them into homosexuals I'd say
    The racism that those kids would have to put up with,and I don't know,mental traumas?(this will be quoted 100%)
    So hell no to homosexuals adopting children!

    Besides.I think there is a reason god gave females and males their organs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Ok ethereal it's been a while since I've commented in the debate section because as of late it's become more bickering than debating but I'll take the time to respond to your comment.

    Why shouldn't gay's be allowed to adopt?
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    As of 2009 a meta-analysis of psychological studies by Abbie Goldberg showed that there are no harms to gay parenting both physically and psychologically (No harms greater than that of straight parents). In fact she goes on to argue that gay parenting may result in more accepting and socially healthy children.

    Let's say we ignore the statistics for a moment and thinking about the children instead. Would you prefer that a child stays in an orphanage as opposed to being brought up by gay parents? If there are no harms to gay parenting then why would this be for any other reason than your own prejudice? I would prefer that both straight and gay couples got to adopt children you know why? Because more children will be adopted... so that more children can grow up feeling like someone loves them instead of sitting in an orphanage just hoping that someone eventually comes along and sees them as worthy.
    Abbie Goldberg probably munches carpet..
    Secondly, I'm not buying it one bit.
    We've moved into an age where too much is "accepted" these days by parents.
    Why do you think kids have turned into crazy gun toting monsters?
    You can blame bad parenting and society for them both.
    I walk down the street, and I see 13-14 year old girls dressed like fucking prostitutes..
    so you're saying Homo parents will be more "accepting" of this behavior?
    Kids need firm parents, not parents that are going to be their friends.
    That is stepping out of the role.
    Parents are supposed to be role models, guardians, providers,
    and friends usually doesn't come until later in life, not saying always but this is usually the case.

    Bottom line is Orphans are pretty fucked from the get go.
    So yee-ha let's give them a combo shot of angst and provide them with homo parents.
    I'm sure there are plenty of kids that turned out fine,
    and I'm sure there are plenty that are licking windows somewhere,
    or maybe worse. Either way,
    it's an unnatural upbringing and I don't agree with it.

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    You can not "buy it" all you want but all that demonstrates is that you don't give a damn about evidence or reality all you give a shit about is your own little preconceptions. This is why I left this sad excuse for a debate section, it's not a debate but a "HERE'S WHAT I THINK AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE" section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    You can not "buy it" all you want but all that demonstrates is that you don't give a damn about evidence or reality all you give a shit about is your own little preconceptions. This is why I left this sad excuse for a debate section, it's not a debate but a "HERE'S WHAT I THINK AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE" section.
    No, I just don't believe every little statistic I read.
    Obviously you haven't left this section..since you know..
    You just posted in it.

    And what do you think a debate is?
    a discussion, involving opposing viewpoints.
    So tell me again how we aren't debating this..?
    How this just became "MY" outlook, when there are millions of people that share the same outlook?

    W/e man..the more shit we just accept and let slide into mainstream just fucks this Country up more and more.
    Tbh, this doesn't really affect my life,
    so I don't even know why I'm posting about it.
    On that note, I'm going to play some Bioshock 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No, I just don't believe every little statistic I read.
    A meta analysis isn't a "little statistic", a meta-analysis is by definition an examination of multiple studies.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameman338 View Post
    This includes marriage between man/man and woman/woman.
    Countries that support it are:
    Belgium
    Canada
    Netherlands
    Norway
    South Africa
    Spain
    Sweden

    And the only states currently allowing it in the U.S. are Massachusetts, Connecticut and Iowa, and a few other states.

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    I personally think that we should continue to progress towards equality. There is supposed to be a separation of church & state. The argument that God doesn't allow it should not apply in this day and age.

    What does MPGH think? I know some of you may have adopted your parents ideas and homophobia, but I think we should all evolve past this.
    (I'm straight, in case anyone decides to flame me for defending this)

    I myself believe it is not a choice, and is caused by hormones in prenatal wombs and a persons actual environment has little to no decision in it. Especially in the USA where homosexuality is hated upon so much, the environment couldn't have an effect because who would choose to group with one of the most (unfortunately) hated groups in society due to religion.

    Once it was legalized, I think much of the argument over the subject would be debunked.

    I couldn't find out how to post a poll after i had already posted, so ya...
    Why do other people give a shit what they do?
    If you wanna be gay..then be gay.
    Just don't fkn flirt with me.
    That's my solution

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    i support lesbos, but i hate fags
    12year old porno addict,I guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casavir View Post
    12year old porno addict,I guess?
    I think you pretty much nailed it there. And my personal contribution: as long as they don't affect the children they may raise in an unnatural manner (read: forcing them to be gay), I don't have that many problems concerning them. Just let them be /

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    I believe homosexuality should be legal everywhere and no, I'm not homosexual. It is my believe that you are not born a homosexual, but could possibly develop into one. I think it starts at a young age and depends on your social environment. Think about this:

    Some studies have shown that homosexuals are, more often than not, the one kid who hangs out with mostly the opposite sex when they are at a very young age (Primary School). At such a young age, you learn from and adapt to the way your friends act and socialize. If a boy, for example, hangs out with other boys, they're going to be exposed to the male perspective of females (this girl is cute, or that girl is cute, etc.). When a boy instead hangs out with girls at such an age, they are exposed to the female perspective of males (this boy is cute, that boy is cute, etc.). There is certainly no physical attribute that can be linked to homosexuality (ex. the "gay gene").

    What do you guys think about this theory?

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    My theory is that you shouldn't give a flying fuck about what sex people are attracted to. If two grown ass adults love each other it's not my god damn business who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy1515 View Post
    I believe homosexuality should be legal everywhere and no, I'm not homosexual. It is my believe that you are not born a homosexual, but could possibly develop into one. I think it starts at a young age and depends on your social environment. Think about this:

    Some studies have shown that homosexuals are, more often than not, the one kid who hangs out with mostly the opposite sex when they are at a very young age (Primary School). At such a young age, you learn from and adapt to the way your friends act and socialize. If a boy, for example, hangs out with other boys, they're going to be exposed to the male perspective of females (this girl is cute, or that girl is cute, etc.). When a boy instead hangs out with girls at such an age, they are exposed to the female perspective of males (this boy is cute, that boy is cute, etc.). There is certainly no physical attribute that can be linked to homosexuality (ex. the "gay gene").


    What do you guys think about this theory?

    Acutally, I became bisexual during middle school, I slowly found out that I was attracted to both genders.

    The reason I was attracted to males more than females, is because all my life I was rejected and I never had any luck with females. However, I found myself becoming more welcomed and accepted regardless of my status or looks by gay or bi males.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy1515 View Post
    I believe homosexuality should be legal everywhere and no, I'm not homosexual. It is my believe that you are not born a homosexual, but could possibly develop into one. I think it starts at a young age and depends on your social environment. Think about this:

    Some studies have shown that homosexuals are, more often than not, the one kid who hangs out with mostly the opposite sex when they are at a very young age (Primary School). At such a young age, you learn from and adapt to the way your friends act and socialize. If a boy, for example, hangs out with other boys, they're going to be exposed to the male perspective of females (this girl is cute, or that girl is cute, etc.). When a boy instead hangs out with girls at such an age, they are exposed to the female perspective of males (this boy is cute, that boy is cute, etc.). There is certainly no physical attribute that can be linked to homosexuality (ex. the "gay gene").

    What do you guys think about this theory?
    I think that even though your theory might be "right" in a sense, there sure as hell are biological (genetic) influences. Biology and sexual orientation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    My theory is that you shouldn't give a flying fuck about what sex people are attracted to. If two grown ass adults love each other it's not my god damn business who they are.
    Pretty much sums up my thoughts too ^

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzie View Post
    Acutally, I became bisexual during middle school, I slowly found out that I was attracted to both genders.

    The reason I was attracted to males more than females, is because all my life I was rejected and I never had any luck with females. However, I found myself becoming more welcomed and accepted regardless of my status or looks by gay or bi males.
    Shouldn't have told that to MPGH. And are you seriously attracted to them? :/

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