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    Religion Debate Thread - Atheist Vs Religious Believers

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    • Serious People Only, I don't want 10 year old kid's saying "GODZ EXIST BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN HIM!!!"
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    • Please, PLEASE, do not go responding arguments with things that are completely offtopic and unrelated

    Personally, I am atheist.
    If you believe some religion, and wish to prove me wrong, please post. I will be pleased to have a long and Hard Debate.

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    I'm confused by the options, there's
    Atheists = Don't believe in Gods
    Theists = Do believe in Gods
    Other = ???
    The Atheist-Theist dichotomy seems sound... what is this other?
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    I'm confused by the options, there's
    Atheists = Don't believe in Gods
    Theists = Do believe in Gods
    Other = ???
    The Atheist-Theist dichotomy seems sound... what is this other?
    I guess it could be undecided

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdct View Post


    I guess it could be undecided
    There is no undecided, people that haven't decided on a label but don't yet accept the statement "There is a God" are implicit atheists.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    There is no undecided, people that haven't decided on a label but don't yet accept the statement "There is a God" are implicit atheists.
    Your intent on arguing with me aren't you?
    And you could say that people that haven't decided on a label but don't yet accept the statement "There is no God" are implicit religious

    you could even say that that people who haven't decided on a label but don't yet accept the statement "There is a God" or There is no God" are undecided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdct View Post


    Your intent on arguing with me aren't you?
    And you could say that people that haven't decided on a label but don't yet accept the statement "There is no God" are implicit religious

    you could even say that that people who haven't decided on a label but don't yet accept the statement "There is a God" or There is no God" are undecided.
    How many times am I going to have to explain this to you before it gets through your thick skull.

    Atheist =/= "I believe there is no God"
    Atheist = "I don't believe there is a God"

    You're arguing against Gnostic Atheism. Not the much more dominant Agnostic Atheism.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    How many times am I going to have to explain this to you before it gets through your thick skull.

    Atheist =/= "I believe there is no God"
    Atheist = "I don't believe there is a God"

    You're arguing against Gnostic Atheism. Not the much more dominant Agnostic Atheism.
    You're right, by not being able to say that they believe in God they're atheist, I've really never looked at it in that perspective before, Thank you

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    They're is people who are not religious, but do believe god in some sort of way. Agnostic People.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbatemper123 View Post
    They're is people who are not religious, but do believe god in some sort of way. Agnostic People.
    Agnostic is not a stance on a belief in a God. Agnostic is a stance on knowledge.

    I swear this is the millionth time I've had to do this but I'll do it again.

    Gnostic Theist: I know there is a God
    Agnostic Theist: I don't know that there is a God but I believe there is one.
    Agnostic Atheist: I don't know that there is a God but I don't believe there is one.
    Gnostic Atheist: I know there is no God.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Ok let me break it down for you all since apperantly you can't seem to understand this shit.

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    Atheist: Don't believe in God.
    Religious: Believe in God.
    Other: I'm not sure i believe or don't believe.


    Thats what it means. Screw your fucking definitions, thats what the choices mean. It really pains me to see such obvious shit complicated.


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    I'm atheist I don't really have anything to argue with you about

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    i am religious because I know there are many times when u feel alone and like there is nothing, but every once in a while there is something that indicates there must be

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