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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffy View Post


    I now see why everyone just insults you for your stubborn ignorance and outright insolence.
    keep the insults comin, just confirms to me that i won the argument


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    And what do you make of fossils, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombsaway707 View Post

    1 cell evolving over billions of years to eventually form modern man, i also believe thats what you believe
    Now based on random mutation and selective pressures what prevents evolution from occurring?
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Now based on random mutation and selective pressures what prevents evolution from occurring?
    The fact that a cell can't be formed from nonliving matter, u can't make an omelet without an egg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombsaway707 View Post

    The fact that a cell can't be formed from nonliving matter, u can't make an omelet without an egg
    Ok I'm going to repeat this because you're still not getting it. Evolution is not dependent on abiogensis. It doesn't matter how abiogenesis occurred, it has no impact on the validity of evolution. Much like how the origin of the universe doesn't impact the validity of general relativity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Ok I'm going to repeat this because you're still not getting it. Evolution is not dependent on abiogensis. It doesn't matter how abiogenesis occurred, it has no impact on the validity of evolution. Much like how the origin of the universe doesn't impact the validity of general relativity.
    But how can you make an omelet without an egg? Or in your terms how can evolution occur if a cell cannot come from non living matter? I understand the evolution part but i don't believe the earth is over 1 billion years old and even if i did you can't have evolution w/ out a cell

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    All I can say is all you Atheist idiots will see the truth when judgement day comes. I feel for you. Hopefully you'll get saved before then, no one deserves to burn in hell.
    I'm not gonna sit here and argue with anyone, But I just hope you realize the truth before its too late.
    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombsaway707 View Post
    Cell theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    1. All living organisms are made up of one or more cells.
    2. Cells are the basic unit of life.
    3. All cells arise from pre-existing cells.
    4. The cell is the unit of structure, physiology, and organization in living things.
    5. The cell retains a dual existence as a distinct entity and a building block in the construction of organisms.

    Where did the first cell come from then?
    Derp.
    Thus, science contradicts itself.
    Anyone care to debate me?
    well the first cell came from god. end of discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisWebby View Post
    well the first cell came from god. end of discussion
    You can't end the discussion in a debate thread. hhaha
    Bibamus, gaudeamus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    You can't end the discussion in a debate thread. hhaha
    He is right tho , Man came from god

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombsaway707 View Post

    But how can you make an omelet without an egg? Or in your terms how can evolution occur if a cell cannot come from non living matter? I understand the evolution part but i don't believe the earth is over 1 billion years old and even if i did you can't have evolution w/ out a cell
    Then at no point are you arguing about evolution, your qualm is with abiogenesis. We don't know exactly how the first cell formed, whether it was in under-sea vents, the "soup" theory or the others that have been proposed. However what we do know due to the Miller-Urey experiments is that the building blocks for life can form from natural chemical reactions in no way tied to life. It doesn't matter that the atmosphere that was used was not the one that was on earth back at the origin of life. The Miller-Urey experiment was a proof of concept, that amino-acids can form solely through usually natural chemical reactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Then at no point are you arguing about evolution, your qualm is with abiogenesis. We don't know exactly how the first cell formed, whether it was in under-sea vents, the "soup" theory or the others that have been proposed. However what we do know due to the Miller-Urey experiments is that the building blocks for life can form from natural chemical reactions in no way tied to life. It doesn't matter that the atmosphere that was used was not the one that was on earth back at the origin of life. The Miller-Urey experiment was a proof of concept, that amino-acids can form solely through usually natural chemical reactions.

    Apparently you forgot what my original post was, it was evolution cannot happen because cells cannot come from non living things, my quarrel is with atheists, evolutionists, evolution and abiogenesis. And i have much enjoyed this debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombsaway707 View Post


    Apparently you forgot what my original post was, it was evolution cannot happen because cells cannot come from non living things, my quarrel is with atheists, evolutionists, evolution and abiogenesis. And i have much enjoyed this debate
    Why can't cells come from non-living matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Why can't cells come from non-living matter?
    ask your scientists, their cell theory says so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombsaway707 View Post

    ask your scientists, their cell theory says so
    Cell Theory models how cells behave after abiogenesis.
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