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    Suicide Bombing in Russia, ~35 killed ~100 injured

    www. bbc .co.uk/news/world-europe-12268662

    Ok so what do you guys think,

    Security vs. Personal liberties.




    Video of the aftermath


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    Shit like this happens couple times a year in Russia. Most of these attacks are by extremist groups in the Caucuses.

    Doku Umarov, a Chechen leader (gleefully) claimed responsibility
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/wo...w.html?_r=1&hp

    This is worse then the train station bombing that occurred late last year. Not quite as bad as the Russian school hostage situation where >300 were killed, mostly kids.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_...hostage_crisis
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    Seems like you're broadcasting news here, Paroxysm.

    WHERE'S THE DEBAAAAAAAATE?

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    What do we to both avoid situations like this but not infringe on civil liberties?

    Is this a call for draconian security or merely the cost of a free society?


    I post this here partly because I want to hear your opinions on this matter and also because it's (surprisingly) a more serious sub-forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    What do we to both avoid situations like this but not infringe on civil liberties?

    Is this a call for draconian security or merely the cost of a free society?


    I post this here partly because I want to hear your opinions on this matter and also because it's (surprisingly) a more serious sub-forum.
    I agree with the last part.

    I will say that unfortunately there is no such thing as a utopia. Every form of society has its issues. Draconian infringes on the rights of the individuals and inflicts huge punishments for those who have committed only small crimes, but free societies such as that of my country, USA, leaves too much room for loopholes and confusing legalities.

    Actually, since I am unaware, are there any more moderate choices for legal structure?

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    i know there is terrible to say but..... EPIC FAIL

    seriously though: thats aweful but stuff happens. gota move on


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    how is this a debate? i dont see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by KILLAblood View Post
    how is this a debate? i dont see it
    It's more of a discussion than a debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Is this a call for draconian security or merely the cost of a free society?
    IMO only here, i'm not going for actual ethics and shit.


    I believe this shit should be stopped, but 30 people........ Forgive me for sounding "harsh" but thats not that bad. Its really sad that terrorist are so blindingly stupid that they resort to such low and ridiculous tactics.

    I could probably take out 10-20 people by myself before dying/being stopped though.
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    Increasing security is a must, but also you have to realize, you can ALWAYS get around it.

    Example: They increase airport security, Terrorist bomb the subways.

    You should have security thats decent, but you can't protect everyone. Its just too much.


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    why am i not surprised that they were muslim?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaT- View Post
    why am i not surprised that they were muslim?
    There's a bit of a shortage on Hindu terrorists, a sizable amount of christian terrorists but it's all dwarfed by the Extremist Muzzies.
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