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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Yo View Post


    Ignorant people like you are just as worse. You don't understand anything, so you ignore the truth, and blame people who are trying to help.
    Right im ignorant because I don't agree with you, solid logic you got there .

    Just can't believe that you have convinced yourself that there is a secret group that runs the world all in a secret room with secret people in a secret location. I mean do you even here yourself talk?
    "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him. An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevs666 View Post
    Right im ignorant because I don't agree with you, solid logic you got there .

    Just can't believe that you have convinced yourself that there is a secret group that runs the world all in a secret room with secret people in a secret location. I mean do you even here yourself talk?
    Yeah, because that is just way more far fetched than hmm, let's say organized religion yet that is widely embraced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    Yeah, because that is just way more far fetched than hmm, let's say organized religion yet that is widely embraced.
    No, it's not hard to manipulate scared people that are looking for answers. Cargo cults, these people actually worshiped things from cargo planes/boats Cargo cult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia If I go to a starving nation and talk about ending starvation, they will most likely praise me, if I actually end starvation in that country, I could then probably convince them to make me dictator for life. It is easy to manipulate people as long as you tell them what they want to hear. Hence religion
    "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him. An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevs666 View Post
    No, it's not hard to manipulate scared people that are looking for answers. Cargo cults, these people actually worshiped things from cargo planes/boats Cargo cult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia If I go to a starving nation and talk about ending starvation, they will most likely praise me, if I actually end starvation in that country, I could then probably convince them to make me dictator for life. It is easy to manipulate people as long as you tell them what they want to hear. Hence religion
    I'm not really sure if you fully grasped the point I was trying to convey.
    Manipulation is irrelevant. I'm talking about accepting an idea.

    We have proof that men exist right?
    We have proof that certain men crave money and power right?
    That is logical correct?

    Do we have proof of God?
    no?
    So why is it so easy to accept the God theory,
    Yet you close your mind to this theory of a powerful group of men just might be running the world with bad intentions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    I'm not really sure if you fully grasped the point I was trying to convey.
    Manipulation is irrelevant. I'm talking about accepting an idea.

    We have proof that men exist right?
    We have proof that certain men crave money and power right?
    That is logical correct?

    Do we have proof of God?
    no?
    So why is it so easy to accept the God theory,
    Yet you close your mind to this theory of a powerful group of men just might be running the world with bad intentions?

    So let me get this straight, we have proof that men can crave money and power. Yet we also have proof men can be good to one another and help each other.

    But yet we have a secret society, doing secrete things, in a secrete location.

    I'm sorry, but if you are so informed, why is all this a secret?

    Its not ignorance, its lack of proof.
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    Debate lesson #1.

    Disproving religion does not automatically prove your point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post



    So let me get this straight, we have proof that men can crave money and power. Yet we also have proof men can be good to one another and help each other.

    But yet we have a secret society, doing secrete things, in a secrete location.

    I'm sorry, but if you are so informed, why is all this a secret?

    Its not ignorance, its lack of proof.
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    Debate lesson #1.

    Disproving religion does not automatically prove your point.
    Oh please Empire..you only wish you could give me a lesson here.

    Kennedy hinted about secret societies in a speech shortly before his death

    And Woodrow Wilson said once he signed the Federal reserve act,
    power was given to a "few dominant men"
    That was his exact quote.

    Now I'm not sitting here telling anyone the Illuminati is running shit,
    for all I know they aren't even around anymore..
    I'll tell you one thing though, you aren't going to find any real answers to our problems on the news or any other major media outlet,
    That's whats great about libraries and the internet.

    Also, I never even attempted to disprove religion.

    So maybe you need the lesson in paying attention if you want to debate me thoroughly.

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    The Illuminati was an actual organisation. If I am correct, they were persecuted by the catholic church and hunted down.

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    Christians are the ones who want world gov. All people under their own religon,all people under God
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    Oh please Empire..you only wish you could give me a lesson here.

    Kennedy hinted about secret societies in a speech shortly before his death

    And Woodrow Wilson said once he signed the Federal reserve act,
    power was given to a "few dominant men"
    That was his exact quote.

    Now I'm not sitting here telling anyone the Illuminati is running shit,
    for all I know they aren't even around anymore..
    I'll tell you one thing though, you aren't going to find any real answers to our problems on the news or any other major media outlet,
    That's whats great about libraries and the internet.

    Also, I never even attempted to disprove religion.

    So maybe you need the lesson in paying attention if you want to debate me thoroughly.
    :/ Proof is proof.

    hints, quotes, and such, don't prove jack shit. You are leaving your "proof" to your interpretation.

    You won't find any answers anywhere. People need to realize this already. If the CIA can keep shit secret, i'm sure as hell the "secret society" running the CIA can.

    Its just stupid to think that some dipshit on the internet knows what the fuck he's talking about on the Illuminati today.

    Whats even more stupid is how people actually think that if the shit was real it wouldn't be taken down.
    ---------------------------------------------------

    If i had a secret society running everything, and some dipshit found out there are mutiple ways to handle it:
    1. Kill him and remove all evidence.
    2. Kill him and distort evidence.
    3. Simply remove him, planting drugs or w/e is easy enough.
    ----------------------------------

    Overall point is that no one here knows anything about the "secret society" running everything, so blaming them, saying shit about they did this or that, or even just saying they exist is stupid.

    You have no proof. Done.


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    Illuminati is fake stupid shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambrosia View Post
    Illuminati is fake stupid shit

    Ignorant people like you need to sit down, and be given a 10 hour lecture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ne-Yo View Post
    Ignorant people like you need to sit down, and be given a 10 hour lecture.
    Yes ok then please, enlighten us with your oh so wonderful wisdom on this subject, I'll wait.
    "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him. An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    :/ Proof is proof.

    hints, quotes, and such, don't prove jack shit. You are leaving your "proof" to your interpretation.

    You won't find any answers anywhere. People need to realize this already. If the CIA can keep shit secret, i'm sure as hell the "secret society" running the CIA can.

    Its just stupid to think that some dipshit on the internet knows what the fuck he's talking about on the Illuminati today.

    Whats even more stupid is how people actually think that if the shit was real it wouldn't be taken down.
    ---------------------------------------------------

    If i had a secret society running everything, and some dipshit found out there are mutiple ways to handle it:
    1. Kill him and remove all evidence.
    2. Kill him and distort evidence.
    3. Simply remove him, planting drugs or w/e is easy enough.
    ----------------------------------

    Overall point is that no one here knows anything about the "secret society" running everything, so blaming them, saying shit about they did this or that, or even just saying they exist is stupid.

    You have no proof. Done.
    Once again, you aren't even paying attention to my posts.
    I'm not sitting here trying to prove that the Goddamn Illuminati are running shit.. I never once even implied this so what the fuck?
    All I'm saying is anything is possible..

    Secondly, there is proof of the Illuminati..
    it was a real orginization..are you calling transcripts that you can find in the library of congress lies? I already posted up a letter from George Washington himself, where he confirmed their exixtence..but yeah I guess our first president was a conspiracy theorist.
    Maybe you should stop trying to discredit something you have no clue about.

    The whole point is this,
    I never said they still exist, nor did I say they are or ever did "run things"
    I simply said that if people can socially accept something as far fetched as certain theology, then why is it so taboo to think that this whole polyarchy idea isn't possible, and simply chalked down to conspiracy?

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    are we talking about this illuminati



    or this illuminati




    ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    Once again, you aren't even paying attention to my posts.
    I'm not sitting here trying to prove that the Goddamn Illuminati are running shit.. I never once even implied this so what the fuck?
    All I'm saying is anything is possible..

    Secondly, there is proof of the Illuminati..
    it was a real orginization..are you calling transcripts that you can find in the library of congress lies? I already posted up a letter from George Washington himself, where he confirmed their exixtence..but yeah I guess our first president was a conspiracy theorist.
    Maybe you should stop trying to discredit something you have no clue about.

    The whole point is this,
    I never said they still exist, nor did I say they are or ever did "run things"
    I simply said that if people can socially accept something as far fetched as certain theology, then why is it so taboo to think that this whole polyarchy idea isn't possible, and simply chalked down to conspiracy?
    Your point isn't even worth mentioning.

    Its that there was an illuminati, now there isn't.

    Great, spam somewhere else please.


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