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    Quote Originally Posted by arunforce View Post
    Atheists can't have faith? Atheist's CHOOSE not to have faith. The apostles wrote them, they didn't compile them. If I compiled it, I could pull out all the contradictions. I'm going to bring 2 of each animal aboard a ship, and say that Earth is only 4000 years old, created in 2000 BC, and ignore all physical proof of annihlation by meteors! Why does God create so many different worlds, and why did God give us the gift of Uranium if we are so special. Why can the cockroach survive a nuclear bomb, live 7 months without a head, and do so much more, and we can't?

    Face it, religion is for fools.
    Bring some up. Your not going to cause you already know that they take out some parts of the quote like Formed to Form. You know the explanations are out there to every contradiction that you athiest have to change around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sf0d View Post
    Bring some up. Your not going to cause you already know that they take out some parts of the quote like Formed to Form. You know the explanations are out there to every contradiction that you athiest have to change around.
    Please make sense.

    So you say dinosaurs and humans lived together? So how did all those great structures be built, and not get torn down by a T-Rex or a Bronchousarus? How is it that the continents can fit in each other to form Pangea? How is it that if you measured the drifting rate of the continets, they would match the Earth's age of 4 billion years old, or that the Moon would take 4 billion years to be in the place that it is now from the Earth? Why does the Bible say it is ok to have slaves?

    "The Bible is riddled with repetitions and contradictions, things that the Bible bangers would be quick to point out in anything that they want to criticize. For instance, Genesis 1 and 2 disagree about the order in which things are created, and how satisfied God is about the results of his labors. The flood story is really two interwoven stories that contradict each other on how many of each kind of animal are to be brought into the Ark--is it one pair each or seven pairs each of the "clean" ones? The Gospel of John disagrees with the other three Gospels on the activities of Jesus Christ (how long had he stayed in Jerusalem--a couple of days or a whole year?) and all four Gospels contradict each other on the details of Jesus Christ's last moments and resurrection. The Gospels of Matthew and Luke contradict each other on the genealogy of Jesus Christ' father; though both agree that Joseph was not his real father. Repetitions and contradictions are understandable for a hodgepodge collection of documents, but not for some carefully constructed treatise, reflecting a well-thought-out plan."




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    Quote Originally Posted by arunforce View Post
    Please make sense.

    So you say dinosaurs and humans lived together? So how did all those great structures be built, and not get torn down by a T-Rex or a Bronchousarus? How is it that the continents can fit in each other to form Pangea? How is it that if you measured the drifting rate of the continets, they would match the Earth's age of 4 billion years old, or that the Moon would take 4 billion years to be in the place that it is now from the Earth? Why does the Bible say it is ok to have slaves?

    "The Bible is riddled with repetitions and contradictions, things that the Bible bangers would be quick to point out in anything that they want to criticize. For instance, Genesis 1 and 2 disagree about the order in which things are created, and how satisfied God is about the results of his labors. The flood story is really two interwoven stories that contradict each other on how many of each kind of animal are to be brought into the Ark--is it one pair each or seven pairs each of the "clean" ones? The Gospel of John disagrees with the other three Gospels on the activities of Jesus Christ (how long had he stayed in Jerusalem--a couple of days or a whole year?) and all four Gospels contradict each other on the details of Jesus Christ's last moments and resurrection. The Gospels of Matthew and Luke contradict each other on the genealogy of Jesus Christ' father; though both agree that Joseph was not his real father. Repetitions and contradictions are understandable for a hodgepodge collection of documents, but not for some carefully constructed treatise, reflecting a well-thought-out plan."
    1. Gen. 1:11 has the trees made on day 3 before man;
    Gen. 2:8 has the trees made on day 6 after man.
    2. Gen. 1:20 has birds made out of the water on day 5;
    Gen. 2:19 has birds made out of the ground (after man) on day 6.
    3. Gen. 1:24, 25 has the animals made on day 6 before man;
    Gen. 2:19 has the animals made on day 6 after man

    Explanation of supposed contradiction:

    1. Chapter 1 tells the entire story in the order it happened.
    2. Gen. 2:4-6 gives a quick summary of the first five days of creation.
    3. Gen. 2:7-25 is describing only the events that took place on day 6 in the Garden of Eden.

    The trees described in Genesis 2:8 are only in the Garden (the rest of the world is already full of trees from day 3). The purpose of this second creation of trees may have been to let Adam see that God did have power to create, that He was not just taking credit for the existing world. Notice that the second creation of trees was still on day 6 and was only those trees that are "pleasant to the sight and good for food."

    The birds created out of the ground on day 6 are only one of each "kind" so that Adam can name them and select a wife. The rest of the world is full of birds from day 5.

    Genesis 2:19 is describing only the animals created in the Garden, after man. The purpose of this second batch of animals being created was so that Adam could name them (Gen. 2:19) and select a wife (Gen. 2:20). Adam, not finding a suitable one (God knew he wouldn't), God made Eve (Gen. 2:21-22).

    There are no contradictions between these two chapters. Chapter 2 only describes in more detail the events in the Garden of Eden on day 6. If ancient man had written the Bible (as some scoffers say), he would never have made it say that the light was made before the sun! Many ancient cultures worshiped the sun as the source of life. God is light. God made the light before He made the sun so we could see that He (not the sun) is the source of life.

    1. Matthew 1:6-7 The lineage of Jesus is traced through David's son, Solomon.
    2. Luke 3:23-31 It is traced through David's son, Nathan. (Note: Some apologists assert that Luke traces the lineage through Mary. That this is untrue is obvious from the context since Luke and Matthew both clearly state that Joseph was Jesus' father.)

    It clearly states nothing of the sort. Luke 1:27 and 34-35 go to great pains to make clear that Joseph was NOT Jesus' biological father. He was Jesus' earthly adopted father. That is why Luke 3:23 adds the all-important phrase "as was supposed." This genealogy traces the biological ancestry through Mary

    Find the quotes for the Years.

    Slaves were paid money back then. Not that kind of slavery.
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    Post your own contradictions and prove them wrong? Completely ignore my post?

    Game Over. I win.
    *Topic Closed.*
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