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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    the question rises again

    what came first the chicken or the egg
    in your case who gave birth to the first of your kin...
    it wasn't like apes who did it i can assure you..
    ok, but the one I'm sure who made me as I said is my mom, if God show himself maybe... but now you can move my position
    and about chicken or the egg, Darwin? the evolution? look what it said and think about it if you are smart you will know the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBoy95 View Post
    ok, but the one I'm sure who made me as I said is my mom, if God show himself maybe... but now you can move my position
    and about chicken or the egg, Darwin? the evolution? look what it said and think about it if you are smart you will know the answer


    sir you did not understand my question again..
    who made your mom

    if she wouldn't exist then you wouldn't.


    its simple really all religions suggest God crated man kind hence your argument was invalid.

    /period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    the question rises again

    what came first the chicken or the egg
    in your case who gave birth to the first of your kin...
    it wasn't like apes who did it i can assure you..
    It's called evolution mate, how can 1 person make a World may I say? And if there was a god, why would he let so much misery into this world like Disabled people who can't even live their life properly, 1 thing I got to say to your god, Fuck you.

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    once again lets assume it was evolution then what created the very first being ...

    science doesn't explain that..


    dont u believe in any religion at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    once again lets assume it was evolution then what created the very first being ...

    science doesn't explain that..


    dont u believe in any religion at all?
    Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.[1]
    Life on Earth evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.8 billion years ago. Repeated speciation and the divergence of life can be inferred from shared sets of biochemical and morphological traits, or by shared DNA sequences.[2] These homologous traits and sequences are more similar among species that share a more recent common ancestor, and can be used to reconstruct evolutionary histories, using both existing species and the fossil record. Existing patterns of biodiversity have been shaped both by speciation and by extinction.[3]
    Charles Darwin and Alfred Wallace were the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is a process that is inferred from three facts about populations: 1) more offspring are produced than can possibly survive, 2) traits vary among individuals, leading to different rates of survival and reproduction, and 3) trait differences are heritable.[4] Thus, when members of a population die they are replaced by the progeny of parents that were better adapted to survive and reproduce in the environment in which natural selection took place. This process creates and preserves traits that are seemingly fitted for the functional roles they perform.[5] Natural selection is the only known cause of adaptation, but not the only known cause of evolution. Other, nonadaptive causes of evolution include mutation and genetic drift.[6]
    In the early 20th century, genetics was integrated with Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection through the discipline of population genetics. The importance of natural selection as a cause of evolution was accepted into other branches of biology. Moreover, previously held notions about evolution, such as orthogenesis and "progress" became obsolete.[7] Scientists continue to study various aspects of evolution by forming and testing hypotheses, constructing scientific theories, using observational data, and performing experiments in both the field and the laboratory. Biologists agree that descent with modification is one of the most reliably established facts in science.[8] Discoveries in evolutionary biology have made a significant impact not just within the traditional branches of biology, but also in other academic disciplines (e.g., anthropology and psychology) and on society at large.
    Hope it explains it, its C+P

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    its a hypotheses as said.. in the wall of text..

    so there is no solid proof am i correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    its a hypotheses as said.. in the wall of text..

    so there is no solid proof am i correct?
    Yes it is a Hypothesis like Religion is, but we actually have found proof of evolution, and how can you explain other planets? Why didn't almighty God put people on there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamashimasen View Post
    Fear is the best way to control people so i believe a kings or some kind of leader figured out that when people are told that the words come from a deity of some kind people think that it must be true.

    The leader could create there own deity for what they believed and people would be to afraid to go against it.

    So at one point someone most likely had the morals you have and passed them along but it very easily could have been completely different depending on what the creator of the fictional deity believed.

    Now we live in a society dictated by scientific fact and with the knowledge we posses we know there cant be a deity of any kind, more and more people are realizing this as time passes.

    Religion could have been necessary to develop the world we live in now by creating the morals people still believe in, who knows what we would think if there was no religion that passed down right and wrong, we could have ended up like animals who don't care for social protocols and fuck whomever they please or we could have ended up less violent with morals against all violence, there's really no what to tell but the fact is people still believe in morels given by religion even if they no longer believe in "god".
    Thank you for understanding, I agree completely. I just think that other people should learn to realize this point of view and continue to learn the moral structure from those books even if they know there is no deity involved.
    The One and Only...

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    cant force you to believe
    why would i know why He didn't put people there..
    its his choice..

    btw doesn't science state aliens exist...

    so maybe there are people there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    btw doesn't science state aliens exist...
    science theorizes there are other lifeforms outside our solar system but there is no proof only a possibility, people have found what it takes for a planet sustain life as we know it and even theories of how life originated have shown positive results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowkip View Post
    Yep I knew it you're just plain stupid.
    G'day sir.
    If I'm stupid, then you're stupid for not trying to make me unstupid

    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    are you racists or some thing?
    like your signature clearly tells that >_<
    no one here says any thing to the bible like that.........
    show some respect...
    Being anti-religious doesn't mean I'm a racist
    I have no respect for religion, my respect goes to humans

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    But we already know people are stupid, so it makes sense.
    And too scared too

    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    the question rises again
    what came first the chicken or the egg
    in your case who gave birth to the first of your kin...
    it wasn't like apes who did it i can assure you..
    What's the origin of your sky daddy?
    Last edited by 666HiddenMaster666; 05-13-2013 at 06:22 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Extravagant View Post
    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
    "Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." - Richard Dawkins
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    Troll nomination. Allah and Muhammad for 1400 years of bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    sir you did not understand my question again..
    who made your mom

    if she wouldn't exist then you wouldn't.


    its simple really all religions suggest God crated man kind hence your argument was invalid.

    /period.

    who made my mom? the bing bang and years of evolution...

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    ​Human Secularism. /thread



    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBoy95 View Post
    who made my mom? the bing bang and years of evolution...
    ​Your mother's parents.
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    ​Your mother's parents.
    [/QUOTE]

    yes, well... stil the big bang and year of evolution

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBoy95 View Post

    ​Your mother's parents.

    One of the pivotal creators of the Big-Bang theory, Stephen Hawking, has already retracted his belief in it.
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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