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    wich god? hmm..

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    Some people pray for people, hoping for a miracle.
    Some people attribute miracles to a divine one.

    I was just wondering if people's opinions would change if they found out a miracle wasn't a miracle, or miracles didn't happen.




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    Who's to decide what's a miracle, and what isn't a miracle. It's not like people can prove something is or isn't a miracle.
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    miracles are just that. they r spontaneous coincidental outcomes. God doesnt exist so please just shut up


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    Quote Originally Posted by beteasta3 View Post
    miracles are just that. they r spontaneous coincidental outcomes. God doesnt exist so please just shut up
    Prove it to me, Show me evidence that god doesn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SupB View Post
    Prove it to me, Show me evidence that god doesn't exist.
    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is the most foolish argument every known theist throws at atheists. You can't prove something doesn't exist because it's not there. and you can't prove hes real either.

    So why dont i just tell you why religion is fraud. and maybe ill get through you're close minded head.

    1)Christianity was based off of judaism. basically they took the fundamentals of judaism and changed it around into their own religion. meaning that no guy named jesus ever told them believe in this but they simply did it to scare people and control them. thats why they killed of so many and took over using fear.

    2) They make up the stupidest excuses. Well if god doesnt want you to jerk off or have sex before you're married but he made it pleasurable. They said its pleasurable because its a gift...lol. The reason its pleasurable is so early man would be determined to have sex and therefore produce more humans so we can evolve.

    3) they say the reason god doesn't come down and prove to us hes real is so he can test our beliefs. BULL SHIT. if he was omnipotent and he existed he would of done that a while ago.

    4) if god knows all past present and future he should have figured out that man kind would turn up like this

    5)there is actual proof of evolution and such. their are fossils. and u can find signs of evolution in everyday life. are feet are not straight but pointing left and right. why? so we can be mobile and make swifter turns.

    6) if you workout at a gym and know how your muscles work you'd believe in evolution more. When we lift heavy weights we tear muscle fibers so our body is forced to change and adapt to the environment to get stronger....more proof of evolution.

    7) the reason monkeys haven't evolved is because we haven't evolved from monkeys but we all evolved from a common ancestor.

    8) you ask christians hey well where is jesus grave site? they say oohh uhmm israel? oh well can you go see it?? uhm noo idk....LOL

    9)if god loves us soo much? why is he willing to send us to a place where we burn scream and choke for all eternity?

    10) your basicly saying a mass murdered who believes in jesus goes to heaven but a kind hearted atheist goes to hell...lol

    so if u still dont understand all i can say is that you r stupid ignorant stubborn and close minded and no atheist should have to waste their precious time on you. and for god's sake put down that stupid bible and maybe read a science article or watch some history channel or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beteasta3 View Post
    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is the most foolish argument every known theist throws at atheists. You can't prove something doesn't exist because it's not there. and you can't prove hes real either.

    So why dont i just tell you why religion is fraud. and maybe ill get through you're close minded head.

    1)Christianity was based off of judaism. basically they took the fundamentals of judaism and changed it around into their own religion. meaning that no guy named jesus ever told them believe in this but they simply did it to scare people and control them. thats why they killed of so many and took over using fear.

    2) They make up the stupidest excuses. Well if god doesnt want you to jerk off or have sex before you're married but he made it pleasurable. They said its pleasurable because its a gift...lol. The reason its pleasurable is so early man would be determined to have sex and therefore produce more humans so we can evolve.

    3) they say the reason god doesn't come down and prove to us hes real is so he can test our beliefs. BULL SHIT. if he was omnipotent and he existed he would of done that a while ago.

    4) if god knows all past present and future he should have figured out that man kind would turn up like this

    5)there is actual proof of evolution and such. their are fossils. and u can find signs of evolution in everyday life. are feet are not straight but pointing left and right. why? so we can be mobile and make swifter turns.

    6) if you workout at a gym and know how your muscles work you'd believe in evolution more. When we lift heavy weights we tear muscle fibers so our body is forced to change and adapt to the environment to get stronger....more proof of evolution.

    7) the reason monkeys haven't evolved is because we haven't evolved from monkeys but we all evolved from a common ancestor.

    8) you ask christians hey well where is jesus grave site? they say oohh uhmm israel? oh well can you go see it?? uhm noo idk....LOL

    9)if god loves us soo much? why is he willing to send us to a place where we burn scream and choke for all eternity?

    10) your basicly saying a mass murdered who believes in jesus goes to heaven but a kind hearted atheist goes to hell...lol

    so if u still dont understand all i can say is that you r stupid ignorant stubborn and close minded and no atheist should have to waste their precious time on you. and for god's sake put down that stupid bible and maybe read a science article or watch some history channel or something.

    AHAHAHA. you understand one thing, i know my share about religion too.

    1)EPIC..FAILURE. Are you actually trying to blame Jesus for what later christians did? Just because the later christians used violence to encourage christianity, doesn't mean that Jesus doesn't exist.

    2) What do you mean GOD doesn't want you to have sex, in fact most religions promote Sex, and believe that as well as to reproduce it was a good way to build the relationship between a man and a woman. Get your facts straight before you try and act all smart.

    3).. You're just.. K.. If you've read up about any abrahamic religion. When god told the angels that he was going to make man the angels asked him why god said "Because I know what you don't". It later goes on to say that, since angels were made to worship god, and they didn't have a problem, he put humans there to test their beliefs, without physical evidence. That's why abrahamic religions believe that Life is a test.

    4) Who's to say he didn't know mankind wasn't going to end up like this. Again life is a test, obviously if we were headed down this path than humans in generally have been failing.

    5) Religion doesn't take away the fact that ADAPTATIONS have been made, but we don't believe that we came from monkeys. We believe that we were put on this earth as HUMANS.

    6)..Wow..Absolutely no comment.

    7) Than evolution would be contradicting itself.This clearly looks like a type of early Ape.
    [IMG]http://massthink.files.*********.com/2008/06/evolution.jpg[/IMG]

    8) LOL, so are you saying that if you can't find somebodies Grave than they never existed.. LOL..LOL...LOL.. (P.S ask a muslim where Prophet Mahammad(sas) grave is, we'll tell you Medinah, and yes you can see it)

    9) God loves people who believe in him and are good people.

    10) LOL..LOL..LOL.. yes it matters if you believe in god, but that doesn't mean just cause you believe in him you have a one way ticket to heaven. Nope, it clearly says that if you do sins, that you have a chance of going to hell.

    You are calling me ignorant, when you are trying to talk about a subject that you clearly have no knowledge of.
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    well then supb all i can say is i have failed to get through to you just as i have failed with others. you remarks had almost nothing to do with my statements. you are wasting you're one chance of life. instead of living it to the fullest u r wasting your time praying for things that will never be. Im telling you for the last time grow up and look at this world look at it for what it really is. because if you lived in reality and not fairy tales you'd realize it is all bull shit.


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    #6 sigh.

    I guess there's ignorance on both sides,

    some accept evolutionary theory but clearly haven't the slightest understanding of it (beteasta)

    some deny evolutionary theory and clearly haven't the slightest enderstanding of it (SupB)

    I give up.
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    paroxysm my #6 reason probably showed the clearest way of understanding evolution. i dont understand what flaws you see in it. please read it thoroughly once more.


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    I'm not going to lie i haven't really done as much research as i could've in the theory of evolution so i really can't say much, but this is from the little knowledge that i know of. <.< So i guess the real mistake i made was contradicting by talking about a subject that im ignorant about. Ah.. i hate when i rage out on people .. but beteastas comments were stupid as fuck..
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    Quote Originally Posted by beteasta3 View Post
    paroxysm my #6 reason probably showed the clearest way of understanding evolution. i dont understand what flaws you see in it. please read it thoroughly once more.
    Evolution deals with change on the genetic level, muscles rebuilding is just the muscular system repairing damaged muscular tissue. One could argue that this ability arose through evolutionary means though. It's kind of a long shot but I think I just involuntarily saved your argument.
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