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    Question Has Islam ruined the Middle East Countries?

    OK we have the war against Israel.We have Sunni v Shia.We have Syria sectarian violence and now Egypt we have the Muslim brotherhood trying to be the only voice of Islam.We have had so many wars in the Middle East over Islam we have the Taliban Hamas Hezbollah Al Quada elements.
    If mods feel this should be in the religious section fine.Or we could discuss the political Islam side of things and if Islam has been a cancer in the Middle East.
    We have Namus honour killings and women not being allowed to drive and gays being killed and blasphemy laws.Keeping the place backward.




    Men are better than women?:


    “(Women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them.” Sura 2:228


    Men can have many wives:


    “Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four.” Sura 4:3


    Women are worth half a man:


    “To the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half.” Sura 4:11


    “Unto the male is the equivalent of the share of two females.” Sura 4:176


    Women’s sexuality is wrong and needs to be suppressed:


    “As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them.” Sura 4:15


    Selling a wife is perfectly ok:


    “And if ye wish to exchange one wife for another and ye have given unto one of them a sum of money (however great), take nothing from it.” Sura 40:20


    Recently a teenager got thrown of a roof by muslimbrothers by not supprting them.
    Source BBC
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    Yes. Islam is detrimental everywhere.

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    Muhammed (pbah) said: In the last days of earth, a killer will don't know the reason why is he killing, and the man who has be slain will don't know the reason why he has been slained. That whats happening now in the Arab world, they're killing each other for no reason.

    I don't blame Islam, I blame Arabs.

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    Sure they're killing eachother.

    But can a muslim answer this questions please?

    Why do muslims hang gays?
    Why Are there no women rights?
    Why are they murdering minorities and discriminate them?

    Examples of those murders which are common in the middle east countries









    Womens in middle east?



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    Why do muslims hang gays?
    Because its forbidden in Islam and its a big sin.

    We think God created women for a reason. and anyone committed sodomy should be punished. (death).

    Its in sharia law, quran, hadeith, reliable Islamic sources.

    (I understand this seems somehow unfair).


    Why Are there no women rights?
    They have their own rights, they just want to have the same rights as men.


    Why are they murdering minorities and discriminate them?
    didn't fully understand what you mean there,

    let me get home, I'll check the videos that you posted.

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    Because its forbidden in Islam and its a big sin.

    We think God created women for a reason. and anyone committed sodomy should be punished. (death).

    Its in sharia law, quran, hadeith, reliable Islamic sources.

    (I understand this seems somehow unfair).
    Why would they kill people because they have a diffrent sexual orientation, can't understand this because of religious reasons

    They have their own rights, they just want to have the same rights as men.
    That's only normal,why would women have less rights then men?

    didn't fully understand what you mean there,
    A few weeks ago muslimbrothers murdered a coptic priest in egypt which are minorities.
    Source Egypt: Coptic priest killed in Sinai | World news | theguardian.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz$ecurity View Post
    Men are better than women?:


    “(Women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them.” Sura 2:228
    Men is the first created human , in the same time women have more rights in another things If you read the Qur'an fully , not mentioning one verses.

    Here is one for the women:
    “And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses, etc.) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect, etc.) to what is reasonable”
    [Qur'an 2:228].
    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz$ecurity View Post
    “Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four.” Sura 4:3
    Yeah , so the bitches won't be doing adultery , fair enough right?

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    “To the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half.” Sura 4:11
    I don't see anything in it , If there is a money from there father , he will take a certain money due to the equivalent , why ? The male who need to marry , he is the one who pay everything in his family (wives and sons) , and he is the one who buy the house , fair enough , right?


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    “As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them.” Sura 4:15
    Yeah , Allah don't like bitches , but If he like his woman like a bitch ? okay no thing , you're out of Islam , only Islam as a name.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz$ecurity View Post
    “And if ye wish to exchange one wife for another and ye have given unto one of them a sum of money (however great), take nothing from it.” Sura 40:20
    I checked it .... "And Allah judges with truth, while those they invoke besides Him judge not with anything. Indeed, Allah - He is the Hearing, the Seeing". Qur'an 40:20

    ---------- Post added at 08:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz$ecurity View Post
    OK we have the war against Israel.We have Sunni v Shia.We have Syria sectarian violence and now Egypt we have the Muslim brotherhood trying to be the only voice of Islam.We have had so many wars in the Middle East over Islam we have the Taliban Hamas Hezbollah Al Quada elements.
    If mods feel this should be in the religious section fine.Or we could discuss the political Islam side of things and if Islam has been a cancer in the Middle East.
    We have Namus honour killings and women not being allowed to drive and gays being killed and blasphemy laws.Keeping the place backward.




    Men are better than women?:


    “(Women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them.” Sura 2:228


    Men can have many wives:


    “Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four.” Sura 4:3


    Women are worth half a man:


    “To the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half.” Sura 4:11


    “Unto the male is the equivalent of the share of two females.” Sura 4:176


    Women’s sexuality is wrong and needs to be suppressed:


    “As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them.” Sura 4:15


    Selling a wife is perfectly ok:


    “And if ye wish to exchange one wife for another and ye have given unto one of them a sum of money (however great), take nothing from it.” Sura 40:20


    Recently a teenager got thrown of a roof by muslimbrothers by not supprting them.
    Source BBC


    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz$ecurity View Post
    OK we have the war against Israel.We have Sunni v Shia.We have Syria sectarian violence and now Egypt we have the Muslim brotherhood trying to be the only voice of Islam.We have had so many wars in the Middle East over Islam we have the Taliban Hamas Hezbollah Al Quada elements.
    If mods feel this should be in the religious section fine.Or we could discuss the political Islam side of things and if Islam has been a cancer in the Middle East.
    From when Islam is the cancer ? best proof , in Islam time , the best civilizations ... ? because of "Muslims" , never been from Islam.

    Taliban is a terrorist , Hamas the same , Ikhwan the same , hezbollah the same , Al Quada the same and guess what ? All of them are created by western plans including Israel.

    Why the hell Islam is bad ? because those ? We are in Tahrir because we're against them and we're Muslims ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Yes. Islam is detrimental everywhere.
    Pretty weird post , you only say "Yes ......." , proof?

    ---------- Post added at 08:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Lulz$ecurity View Post
    Why would they kill people because they have a diffrent sexual orientation, can't understand this because of religious reasons


    That's only normal,why would women have less rights then men?


    A few weeks ago muslimbrothers murdered a coptic priest in egypt which are minorities.
    Source Egypt: Coptic priest killed in Sinai | World news | theguardian.com
    Sinai have terrorists like Hamas and the Egyptian Army is fighting them....

    Another thing ... don't you know that in 26/7 all the Christians fasted like Muslims because everyone of us love each other.

    You just mentioning the bad and didn't mention the good ... this is how the World Media controlled by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transformer- View Post
    Taliban is a terrorist , Hamas the same , Ikhwan the same , hezbollah the same , Al Quada the same and guess what ? All of them are created by western plans including Israel.
    Again with the anti-semitic conspiracy theories?
    God damn, do you have anything else?
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    Islam is intolerant to women (despite their horrendous driving skills), and preaches and tolerates the killing of all infidel. What kind of fucking religion is that?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto View Post
    Islam is intolerant to women (despite their horrendous driving skills), and preaches and tolerates the killing of all infidel. What kind of fucking religion is that?
    Islam didn't despite their horrendous driving skills :/ Saudi Arabia did but Islam didn't , in Egypt Women Muslims are driving .... Islam is by what you do not others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lame View Post


    Because its forbidden in Islam and its a big sin.

    We think God created women for a reason. and anyone committed sodomy should be punished. (death).

    Its in sharia law, quran, hadeith, reliable Islamic sources.

    (I understand this seems somehow unfair).




    They have their own rights, they just want to have the same rights as men.




    didn't fully understand what you mean there,

    let me get home, I'll check the videos that you posted.
    you as a person what do you think about these "rules"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delko DJ View Post


    you as a person what do you think about these "rules"
    I think it should be updated so it can easily applied to modern era, those rules are like 1000+ old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transformer- View Post
    Islam didn't despite their horrendous driving skills :/ Saudi Arabia did but Islam didn't , in Egypt Women Muslims are driving .... Islam is by what you do not others.
    You let them drive! OH MAN WOMENS RIGHTS EVERYBODY


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    I just think that these "killers" are not muslims, just pretending to be, to get the modern world to you-know-what about such happenings.
    aeria is like were dead xd

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    Quote Originally Posted by |ManDown| View Post
    I just think that these "killers" are not muslims, just pretending to be, to get the modern world to you-know-what about such happenings.
    Why the hell would you pretend to be a part of a religion?
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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