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    Human origin research

    Do you guys think that finding out where we come from, how we were made, who made us, etc... is constructive?
    In other words: Is it going to get us anywhere?
    I realize it's interesting and all that but I mean.... how valuable can it be?

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    What would religion be if we found out about the origin of humans?

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    Origin is important in all aspects, If we are unaware of our origins our beliefs would fall on false statements or statements that cannot be considered truth. Determining the origin of humans and the study of our past will help us create a better future for ourselves. But that's just my opinion .


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    Quote Originally Posted by pkthenubs View Post
    What would religion be if we found out about the origin of humans?
    It would outdate/disprove religion. I guess i just answered my own question. Touche.

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    The problem with finding the origin is two things.

    1. It's not exactly "profitable". It's a long shot at best, and all that time spent could be put to better use.
    2. The way to find the origin is all based on guessing. Educated and intelligent, but guessing all the same. Unless you have a way to travel or look back in time, it's theory after theory after theory.


    The good things are minimal but helpful.

    1. In the extreme off chance origin finding is successful, the technology used might be helpful for other stuff.

    2. Maybe the origin contains some sort of technology that hasn't been discovered, highly unlikely.
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    For those saying "we have to know our origin" shut the fuck up. You don't know your goddamn geneology right now, who the fuck cares where humanity came from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    The problem with finding the origin is two things.

    1. It's not exactly "profitable". It's a long shot at best, and all that time spent could be put to better use.
    2. The way to find the origin is all based on guessing. Educated and intelligent, but guessing all the same. Unless you have a way to travel or look back in time, it's theory after theory after theory.


    The good things are minimal but helpful.

    1. In the extreme off chance origin finding is successful, the technology used might be helpful for other stuff.

    2. Maybe the origin contains some sort of technology that hasn't been discovered, highly unlikely.
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    For those saying "we have to know our origin" shut the fuck up. You don't know your goddamn geneology right now, who the fuck cares where humanity came from.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Using the knowledge, do you think we could create other races?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkthenubs View Post
    Using the knowledge, do you think we could create other races?
    Highly unlikely. Origin finding uses already known technology, it does not create new tech.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    The problem with finding the origin is two things.

    1. It's not exactly "profitable". It's a long shot at best, and all that time spent could be put to better use.
    2. The way to find the origin is all based on guessing. Educated and intelligent, but guessing all the same. Unless you have a way to travel or look back in time, it's theory after theory after theory.


    The good things are minimal but helpful.

    1. In the extreme off chance origin finding is successful, the technology used might be helpful for other stuff.

    2. Maybe the origin contains some sort of technology that hasn't been discovered, highly unlikely.
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    For those saying "we have to know our origin" shut the fuck up. You don't know your goddamn geneology right now, who the fuck cares where humanity came from.
    ​3. A definitive answer would eradicate most religion, thereby eliminating most if not all negative aspects of religious violence.
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    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
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    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    ​3. A definitive answer would eradicate most religion, thereby eliminating most if not all negative aspects of religious violence.
    Trust me if we do find the origin of humanity, 90% of religious people will still believe and will call the origin a lie.

    It's just how it works bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Johnson View Post


    Trust me if we do find the origin of humanity, 90% of religious people will still believe and will call the origin a lie.

    It's just how it works bro.
    ​Unfortunately that's rather true.
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Can't we just tell people that we have found god, lure them to that location and then lock them in.
    Little do they know that it's actually a giant meat-grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post
    Can't we just tell people that we have found god, lure them to that location and then lock them in.
    Little do they know that it's actually a giant meat-grinder.
    Who is "we"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Johnson View Post


    Who is "we"?
    Don't you know the term and generalization of the word we, it's a metonym.
    Who are you referring to by, "us"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post
    Can't we just tell people that we have found god, lure them to that location and then lock them in.
    Little do they know that it's actually a giant meat-grinder.
    One things for sure; history repeats itself.


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