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    Quote Originally Posted by Logiaqw View Post
    It depends on how you define perfection and happiness. For some philosophers, happiness is the product of the good = perfection.
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    What you are implying is impossible. We, as humans, have only been recreating and reinventing from things already in existence. Also, the robots does not have the idea of "perfection" we do. So yes, they wouldn't care.
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    This "higher plane" reminds me of si-fi books (the giver, the cure) in which they address the nature of conformity at the sacrifice of humanity itself.
    And those philosophers are full of shit. Anyone who tries to equate good/bad into different categories than they are already in is just trying too hard. It's applying one philosophy to everything even though you can find several examples of it being proven wrong.
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    Robots creating robots isn't impossible....heck we program them to do it already. Robotic Sentience, is possible, though I'm not sure how far away humanity is from it at the moment.
    -Then you just put two and two together. Sentient Robots creating other sentient robots.
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    Higher planes don't have to do with conformity if I'm correct. Maybe the wording is off, but the comparison I used should have made enough sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Robots creating robots isn't impossible....heck we program them to do it already. Robotic Sentience, is possible, though I'm not sure how far away humanity is from it at the moment.
    -Then you just put two and two together. Sentient Robots creating other sentient robots.
    Robotic sentience like Transformers?
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    You know what.. at first I was like "This is a bunch of bull shiiiiittt".. but then.. What has Australia become in the name of democracy. Welp. Blame it on Toe Knee A But. (Tony Abbot). Blame everything on Toe Knee A But.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Robotic sentience like Transformers?
    Well......sorta, yeah.

    Transformers are sentient robots, though an Earthen version would be what I was talking about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Well......sorta, yeah.
    Transformers are sentient robots, though an Earthen version would be what I was talking about.
    I don't think that would be possible. If we had the capability to make one, what would we "tell" it so it can think on its own? Plus, it would limited based on what we know and how we think...
    Quote Originally Posted by Extravagant View Post
    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Johnson View Post
    In my opinion, democracy is just as corrupt as dictatorship.

    In fact, I think that if a dictator is actually good for the country he will be more responsible and less corrupt than democracy.

    Democracy is just a corrupt government's excuse to a "non - corrupt" government.

    Basically they just do illegal things and create laws that make them legal.

    Furthermore, they control the media and blind the general public on what's right so when it comes time to "vote" the public just votes for what the government wants them to vote for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    I don't think that would be possible. If we had the capability to make one, what would we "tell" it so it can think on its own? Plus, it would limited based on what we know and how we think...
    Well, maybe this is above your understanding, but AI(artificial intelligence) can be programmed to learn.

    Seeing machines as simple program-to-do items is fine, but eventually they will become so much more than just that.
    -Not to mention all the checkpoints along the way: cyborgs, full machine humans, and androids.



    Again, what I'm talking about isn't going to happen in our lifetime unless a huge amount of breakthroughs happen. But the inevitable happening of Robotic Sentience is there.


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    Democracy is the best thing.
    Cuz it's a dictatorship put in a nice shape.
    If it would be pure dictatorship, the people might go into a rebbelion, and destroy the economy.
    It's all about controlling the people, giving them the false idea that they matter.
    With a democracy you achieve that.
    Thus, democracy will result in a peachfull country with not many rebbelions, and if the leaders are not totally retarded, also a rich country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Well, maybe this is above your understanding, but AI(artificial intelligence) can be programmed to learn.
    Seeing machines as simple program-to-do items is fine, but eventually they will become so much more than just that.
    -Not to mention all the checkpoints along the way: cyborgs, full machine humans, and androids.
    Again, what I'm talking about isn't going to happen in our lifetime unless a huge amount of breakthroughs happen. But the inevitable happening of Robotic Sentience is there.
    You're probably right since, this is just like one of those science fiction things that eventually becomes a scientific breakthrough.

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    Democracy is the best thing.
    Cuz it's a dictatorship put in a nice shape.
    If it would be pure dictatorship, the people might go into a rebbelion, and destroy the economy.
    It's all about controlling the people, giving them the false idea that they matter.
    With a democracy you achieve that.
    Thus, democracy will result in a peachfull country with not many rebbelions, and if the leaders are not totally retarded, also a rich country.
    Mob rule + stupid people + corruption = shitty democracy
    In theory could only do so much.
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    Democracy will only work if you have people who are not retarded and know every thing! And the people are not hungry. I hate if you just show a person like 5$ he will be ready to vote for you

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    I agree that its corrupt but yeah , its the best form of government to live under

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    Quote Originally Posted by MkSv View Post
    I agree that its corrupt but yeah , its the best form of government to live under
    No it's not
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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