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    The Truth about the illuminati

    First off, let me say this. Capitalism does not work in a critical thinking society. Capitalism depends on the average delinquent democratic citizen who does not know their own rights let alone the laws and bylaws of the world around them.

    Now then, what does the illuminati got anything to do with political science? Well the word Illuminati in todays culture is widely thought to be a small group of people with extremely large amounts of money in comparison to the Rest of the world let alone other individuals. The Illuminati's history can be traced back to the early 1700s but that is NOT the origin of what we are speaking about today. The illuminati other wise known as the enlightened ones, are groups of people throughout human history manipulating society and people to obtain what they want.

    The idea of having an "illuminati" by todays definition and yesterday's is quite valid and acceptable by many people and not just by the ignorance of man. In political science, there is something called Plutonomy or as many of you already know, a Plutocracy (in The Republic, it's Plato's ideal form of Government). Plutonomy is basically a Form of Capitalism which gives the Rich (powerful) the ability to indirectly influence the Nation's government and economy.

    Have you ever wondered why in america, Poor People (under 50k a year) are given a Tax of less than 5% of their income while people racking in Millions each year are only paying less than 20% of their money to taxes? Does anybody know math?

    If you make 50 grand a year, your taxes will be about $2,500. So if you're a Millionaire, 20% of a Million is Ten Thousand. what is 50,000/2500? 20... 1,000,000/100,000? 10... Here comes human logic, Basically the Rich NEED to pay more taxes than the poor or else. The rich is involved in economic statuses that are beyond what most poor people can fathom, they are typically investors constantly being pulled left and right just trying to keep the profits rolling in. When these rich folk are told they are paying nearly 2x as more Taxes as the Poor people. So they shoot out blood from their vaginas and start cramping up in the stomach, and when a rich person is bleeding from his vagina and has stomach cramps, he seeks relief. Does anyone understand what I'm saying here?

    Now, these rich people NEED to be paying these taxes, and at the moment thanks to OG President Obama they are. Now what is going to happen when another Plutocrat becomes President? The rich will start paying Less taxes, the Poor will be burdened with MORE financial and Laws will be MORE so employed to deteriorate and hold down the Poor class until eventually they are all living on government aid programs and in prolonged detention homes (which is what the Prison system is going to end up being in next 5-10 years). And when this time comes, we as americans will be aware that the Tickle Down System does not work and has never worked, and just because a few of us become Rich Famous White Rap Stars and Investors, does not mean the majority of us are going to die with more than a few bucks in our pockets.

    Democracy is a tool used by the illuminati to trick their cattle into thinking they are being fed healthy food (it's corn) and they will have bright futures ahead of them (they're going to the Slaughter House).
    the Illuminati does not care if you are a delinquent democrat, they do not care if our Republic does not uphold the Moral code of Human (treyvon martin). The Illuminati only wants to fly jets, fuck bitches, and control the world satisfying their sick fetishes however they can.


    Here is some arguments I thought of you all can use to start off with.

    1) Capitalism doesn't require Democracy (never said this but I sure as hell implied it)
    2) You made no point about the Rich paying 2x more Taxes than the poor, all I see is the rich shouldn't have to pay that much.

    Please, let me read your responses.

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    illuminati =/= capitalism. In fact they'd have an easier time with socialism and other systems like the USSR guys did.

    Propose another system instead, tired of hearing this conspiracy bullshit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    illuminati =/= capitalism. In fact they'd have an easier time with socialism and other systems like the USSR guys did.

    Propose another system instead, tired of hearing this conspiracy bullshit.
    Naturalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryLeech View Post
    Naturalism.
    Explain.
    Reason: Naturalism is the belief in that all events that happen are from natural causes. I'm not seeing the relation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Explain.
    Reason: Naturalism is the belief in that all events that happen are from natural causes. I'm not seeing the relation.
    Well I guess I'm going on more about Metaphysical naturalism but I guess you wouldn't know any of my relation to what I've said since you probably don't know about the psychology of human hierarchy. I know communism in it's purest form works, when you have groups of entirely critical thinking intellectuals that are all striving for ____ Reason.

    But let me just be frank, I think the Price System has to go. We need to find and preserve all of our resources for the next 100 years. The Church and State need to be united in a philosophical appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryLeech View Post
    Well I guess I'm going on more about Metaphysical naturalism but I guess you wouldn't know any of my relation to what I've said since you probably don't know about the psychology of human hierarchy.
    You just mixed four topics without being able to explain what their relation is to one another for this topic: Naturalism, Economics, Psychology, Anthropology.

    I don't need to proceed until you can explain your viewpoint clearly.

    Edit: Also, naturalism isn't really relevant to the understanding of any of these. Naturalism only states that all events have a natural cause. It's really just the belief that the "supernatural" does not exist. You can't really apply this to the situation at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryLeech View Post
    I know communism in it's purest form works, when you have groups of entirely critical thinking intellectuals that are all striving for ____ Reason.
    In theory it works if you can alter human nature. In our current reality it wouldn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryLeech View Post
    We need to find and preserve all of our resources for the next 100 years. The Church and State need to be united in a philosophical appeal.
    I'd rather have the church just not exist. Would solve a lot of the economic problems America faces.

    I don't understand the need to "preserve our resources" for 100 years, is there some sort of famine coming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    I'd rather have the church just not exist. Would solve a lot of the economic problems America faces.

    I don't understand the need to "preserve our resources" for 100 years, is there some sort of famine coming?

    I like islam, the idea of the rich giving to the poor is what gets me.

    Also, when people talk about America and Economic problems, I tend to have nothing to say because you probably don't have a clear point about what problems the economy faces.

    You're last question had no substance, if you don't understand the need to assure the highest chances of survival for the human race then you shouldn't be having this conversation with me. Preserving our resources, more importantly getting real time data on the available resources on this planet is what is going to assure our survival as well as help reform our society from a Free Market into a scientific fascist world ruled by the Mercy of man and not ignorant justice.


    To what I thought, Naturalism was simply the belief that ALL THAT EXISTS, is what we can OBSERVE and there is no reason to even contemplate anything else. Mainly, the ideology of people need to be changed to something like this. People need to stop 'believing' they will acquire some form of happiness after death. They need to instead have the mindset of wanting to change the world not escape it. I guess I'm about to get satanic and further dilute this thread with my incoherent thought pattern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryLeech View Post
    I like islam, the idea of the rich giving to the poor is what gets me.

    Also, when people talk about America and Economic problems, I tend to have nothing to say because you probably don't have a clear point about what problems the economy faces.

    You're last question had no substance, if you don't understand the need to assure the highest chances of survival for the human race then you shouldn't be having this conversation with me. Preserving our resources, more importantly getting real time data on the available resources on this planet is what is going to assure our survival as well as help reform our society from a Free Market into a scientific fascist world ruled by the Mercy of man and not ignorant justice.


    To what I thought, Naturalism was simply the belief that ALL THAT EXISTS, is what we can OBSERVE and there is no reason to even contemplate anything else. Mainly, the ideology of people need to be changed to something like this. People need to stop 'believing' they will acquire some form of happiness after death. They need to instead have the mindset of wanting to change the world not escape it. I guess I'm about to get satanic and further dilute this thread with my incoherent thought pattern.
    @AngryLeech @Empire get a room you two

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryLeech View Post
    I like islam, the idea of the rich giving to the poor is what gets me.

    Also, when people talk about America and Economic problems, I tend to have nothing to say because you probably don't have a clear point about what problems the economy faces.

    You're last question had no substance, if you don't understand the need to assure the highest chances of survival for the human race then you shouldn't be having this conversation with me. Preserving our resources, more importantly getting real time data on the available resources on this planet is what is going to assure our survival as well as help reform our society from a Free Market into a scientific fascist world ruled by the Mercy of man and not ignorant justice.


    To what I thought, Naturalism was simply the belief that ALL THAT EXISTS, is what we can OBSERVE and there is no reason to even contemplate anything else. Mainly, the ideology of people need to be changed to something like this. People need to stop 'believing' they will acquire some form of happiness after death. They need to instead have the mindset of wanting to change the world not escape it. I guess I'm about to get satanic and further dilute this thread with my incoherent thought pattern.
    1. You don't need Islam for that.
    2. I have a very clear point about the American economy. Please, don't use the "you probably wouldn't understand"(hipster) argument.
    3. I understand being efficient, but the arbitrary number of a 100 years without showing that humanity is facing a threat to "preserve" our resources is different.
    4. I'm confused, you want scientific fascim but like Islam. They are polar opposites.
    A) Scientific facism is ok, but as a government system you can easily corrupt it. Even easier than the current one, since any complete authoritarian government is so prone to corruption it's almost impossible to find one without it being worse than a democratic given a few years time.

    5. Naturalism doesn't apply to this topic though. Yeah, it completely defeats religion, but that has nothing to do with the illuminati or capitalism/democracy


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