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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_9 View Post


    The third sentence was aimed to be sarcastic. Sadly you didn't get it.
    Nothing is more classic than saying something stupid, and then trying to cover it up with some excuse along the lines of being a joke or sarcastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxilium View Post


    Nothing is more classic than saying something stupid, and then trying to cover it up with some excuse along the lines of being a joke or sarcastic.
    Ehh calm down. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers little birdy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_9 View Post


    Ehh calm down. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers little birdy.
    but i'm not even worked up, lel.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

    Oh damn, look at all those war crimes! This is precisely why we should go nuke America guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaziGui View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

    Oh damn, look at all those war crimes! This is precisely why we should go nuke America guys!
    Uhm, according to that wiki page, I'm seeing like what, 10? Japan, on this list alone, has WAY more than that.

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    I do agree to use the bomb, but not in the areas we had dropped them.
    In the end we killed almost more Civilians did we did military wise.
    All America had to do was target military factories not a whole fking civilian city which is why in some retrospect we regret dropping it because it lead up the whole Cold War. Which if you know anything about, was another reason why we dropped the bomb to intimidate Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaziGui View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

    Oh damn, look at all those war crimes! This is precisely why we should go nuke America guys!
    Well we are Americans... We make the rules which we don't follow because we're America!
    But its different if a couple of people commit as long as a Nation doesn't do it.
    Because simply saying if "I" was to commit mass genocide would that be still consider America for war crimes?
    What if a group of people did it, but the Nation didn't prove of it or know about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaziGui View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

    Oh damn, look at all those war crimes! This is precisely why we should go nuke America guys!
    That doesn't even register as a blip on the scale of what Japan committed, and American nationalism was entirely different than Japanese at the time. Japanese Nationalism at the time could be compared very closely to the Fascism of Nazi Germany. The Japanese ideal was that the Asian race was superior to all other races, and that the world should be cleansed of so-called 'inferior peoples', with heavy quotes on 'people'. Imperial soldiers were brainwashed and trained to treat enemy soldiers as animals, sub-human, and not deserving of human respect. Japanese newspapers even covered a contest between 2 soldiers to see who could kill 100 innocents with a Katana in the shortest time period. Civilians were intrigued, and loved to read the death reports of the 'savage animals' killed. Another example of the sickening dehumanization was the practice for raping children during the Nanking Massacre. Due to the children being sexually immature, they would opt to stab a hole in the stomach, and have intercourse with their internal organs.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Alls_Policy

    ^Imperial Japan's mantra: 'Kill all, burn all, loot all.'

    Japan's public were just as ready to pick up a rifle and slaughter as the Army was, they were brainwashed and fed a steady diet of propaganda. Even after the first Nuclear bomb was dropped, Japan still didn't surrender. If not for the second bomb, who knows how many more innocents would have died.

    Over 10 million dead.


    Not even comparable to America's war crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post
    The Japanese ideal was that the Asian race was superior to all other races, .
    Yeah, just want to remind people.

    Japan still thinks of themselves as superior. This is an intrinsic part of their society to this day.

    Not in the "hurr durr, america ftw!" way either.


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    doesnt matter what the goverment did, many people died that had nothing to do with the implications between japan and the us
    but nukes look rad, so why not try them on the japanese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex0rPl4net View Post
    doesnt matter what the goverment did, many people died that had nothing to do with the implications between japan and the us
    but nukes look rad, so why not try them on the japanese

    Had nothing to do with? That's a pretty naive notion if you are dealing with an all-out-war.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post



    Had nothing to do with? That's a pretty naive notion if you are dealing with an all-out-war.
    Even if they did have nothing to do with it, it raises a relevant question:
    Is it moral to kill one man to save ten?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Even if they did have nothing to do with it, it raises a relevant question:
    Is it moral to kill one man to save ten?
    I won't even bother with moral, practicaly speaking it is. And i'm fine if it's the most immoral thing to do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    That doesn't even register as a blip on the scale of what Japan committed, and American nationalism was entirely different than Japanese at the time. Japanese Nationalism at the time could be compared very closely to the Fascism of Nazi Germany. The Japanese ideal was that the Asian race was superior to all other races, and that the world should be cleansed of so-called 'inferior peoples', with heavy quotes on 'people'. Imperial soldiers were brainwashed and trained to treat enemy soldiers as animals, sub-human, and not deserving of human respect. Japanese newspapers even covered a contest between 2 soldiers to see who could kill 100 innocents with a Katana in the shortest time period. Civilians were intrigued, and loved to read the death reports of the 'savage animals' killed. Another example of the sickening dehumanization was the practice for raping children during the Nanking Massacre. Due to the children being sexually immature, they would opt to stab a hole in the stomach, and have intercourse with their internal organs.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Alls_Policy

    ^Imperial Japan's mantra: 'Kill all, burn all, loot all.'

    Japan's public were just as ready to pick up a rifle and slaughter as the Army was, they were brainwashed and fed a steady diet of propaganda. Even after the first Nuclear bomb was dropped, Japan still didn't surrender. If not for the second bomb, who knows how many more innocents would have died.

    Over 10 million dead.


    Not even comparable to America's war crimes.
    Well yeah, Japan is a nation forged in fire after all. But that's not Japan today. They're slowly getting rid of their xenophobia, expect against China that is. A good deal of the population in Japan is NEETS, Hikikomori and Freeters. Add in the declining birth rate, shitty politicians fucking the country up and more... they really can't do shit right now. In contrast to how Japan used to be it's pretty damn pathetic.

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    Did Japan deserve to be attacked? Undoubtedly.

    Civilian casualties isn't acceptable because of this though.




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