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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    We should all just be atheists, problem solved
    or everyone can believe what the want unless what their believing in is affecting the general population (It has to be the practicing of the religion it self not what people want to perceive it as) for example if religion "x" HolyBook teaches to not kill people for that is a sin and is against the religion "x" god and then people who are in the religion kill people anyways and claim that for whatever reason their is a exception the religion is not to be blamed but the people who are following it >>

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    You should consider feeding your mind sometime and study what slavery was before America's history of slavery became the only definition of it.

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    I don't get how people always react by saying it's "cherry picked" - if it's in the damn book, then it's there

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshZ View Post
    Cherry pick. and I don't do religion.
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    Cherry picked verses and translations.
    You don't do religion how you know if it's cherry-picked? It's one of tens of violent chapters, if I list every single one you're going to say; Oh you cherry-picked it?
    If I didn't put the difference between 2 religions, would it be cherry-picking too? That's a standard reply I see every-time one of you has nothing to say or defend himself.

    I choose a specific topic in one religion and another, "COPIED" not translated both of them, look at the damn books and you'll find both.

    I'm ready to start 5 new threads with various topics not only about slavery but age marrying, etc.
    To prove that it's not "Cherry-Picking", lol.

    Accept the facts people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPH0 View Post



    You don't do religion how you know if it's cherry-picked? It's one of tens of violent chapters, if I list every single one you're going to say; Oh you cherry-picked it?
    If I didn't put the difference between 2 religions, would it be cherry-picking too? That's a standard reply I see every-time one of you has nothing to say or defend himself.

    I choose a specific topic in one religion and another, "COPIED" not translated both of them, look at the damn books and you'll find both.

    I'm ready to start 5 new threads with various topics not only about slavery but age marrying, etc.
    To prove that it's not "Cherry-Picking", lol.

    Accept the facts people.


    If that mean something it means that you never read your book and you're a weirdo who lies to himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPH0 View Post



    You don't do religion how you know if it's cherry-picked? It's one of tens of violent chapters, if I list every single one you're going to say; Oh you cherry-picked it?
    If I didn't put the difference between 2 religions, would it be cherry-picking too? That's a standard reply I see every-time one of you has nothing to say or defend himself.

    I choose a specific topic in one religion and another, "COPIED" not translated both of them, look at the damn books and you'll find both.

    I'm ready to start 5 new threads with various topics not only about slavery but age marrying, etc.
    To prove that it's not "Cherry-Picking", lol.

    Accept the facts people.


    If that mean something it means that you never read your book and you're a weirdo who lies to himself.
    Lies to himself? Are you serious? Just because someone doesn't read some shitty Bible + isn't religious doesn't mean they "lie to themselves" to me it looks like you are lying to yourself with believing most of this bullshit, if religious actually did something good, we'd wouldn't do things we do now, come to your senses. I'm not hating on you, but you sound pretty stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander The Panda View Post
    Lies to himself? Are you serious? Just because someone doesn't read some shitty Bible + isn't religious doesn't mean they "lie to themselves" to me it looks like you are lying to yourself with believing most of this bullshit, if religious actually did something good, we'd wouldn't do things we do now, come to your senses. I'm not hating on you, but you sound pretty stupid.
    He said; "Fake & Gay", that what made me say that he lies to himself assuming that he knows what he's talking about, turned out he don't read shit, from my perspective you discuss what you know otherwise you stfu. Easy logic.

    Also, that's a bonus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander The Panda View Post
    Lies to himself? Are you serious? Just because someone doesn't read some shitty Bible + isn't religious doesn't mean they "lie to themselves" to me it looks like you are lying to yourself with believing most of this bullshit
    valid point but ad hominem doesnt count.
    Quote Originally Posted by SPH0 View Post
    He said; "Fake & Gay", that what made me say that he lies to himself assuming that he knows what he's talking about, turned out he don't read shit, from my perspective you discuss what you know otherwise you stfu. Easy logic.
    it's clear you yourself don't know what you are talking about. we don't have to read the entire book to understand it's meaning. i've read through quite a bit of it and there are many verses in there where Muhammad preaches violence.

    please explain to me how http://quran.com/3/56 (going previously it speaks about disbelievers of Jesus, and the disbelievers planning, but Allah "is the best of planners". after this there's a quote from Allah to Jesus which leads directly into 3:56.

    explain to me how that's a peaceful solution for the disbelievers.

    Quote Originally Posted by SPH0 View Post
    You don't do religion how you know if it's cherry-picked?
    can you not. this is obvious because you're taking SPECIFIC QUOTES OUT OF THE QURAN WITHOUT THE STORY OF IT. YOU'RE SELECTING SPECIFIC VERSES INSTEAD OF THE BOOK ENTIRELY. YOU ARE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ANY OF THE BOOK, BUT RATHER ONLY THE GOOD QUOTES INSIDE OF IT THAT THEN TIE INTO VIOLENCE.

    We don't need to fucking read of all of it to see that.

    Muslims are all the same, they twist their shit just so they can defend the Quran. I really don't get why you people are so averse to any violence in your religion, in Christianity they whole-heartedly accepted the fact that in the Old Testament they used to stone their wives and children if they were disrespectful, and all they do now is defend how it was 'justified', and how 'morals then are different than morals now', instead of it happening at all.
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    I agree that it happened, it happened though because it was customary by Jewish Law. I am not sure if Gentiles followed the same principles. I doubt it, they probably saw it as barbaric. Even now in todays world though, if we went to Russian/China/Middle East, am sure we would see certain ways of life we see as immoral or completely wrong, yet to them, its customary because its always been like that.
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