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    Quote Originally Posted by barklolbark View Post
    Ya, that's what I thought.



    I asked about 9 people to day if they believed God was all powerful. If you God doesn't fit into the logical equation I have set up, so be it. If your God is not all powerful (all-powerful as in he cannot do anything contradictory. This involves going against his nature, contradicting logic) then this doesn't apply to you.. though I would say 99% of monotheists believe he is.
    Very high percentage there,
    but fair enough. There are many people that "think"
    they know enough about God, but we don't have all the answers.
    Either way.. we are talking about a single word here,
    and to base a debate on disproving God over 1 word really isn't going to cut it.

    As I said before, it's all rather trivial and won't sway a true believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Very high percentage there,
    but fair enough. There are many people that "think"
    they know enough about God, but we don't have all the answers.
    Either way.. we are talking about a single word here,
    and to base a debate on disproving God over 1 word really isn't going to cut it.

    As I said before, it's all rather trivial and won't sway a true believer.
    Seeing as my debate hasn't actually been disproved yet, I'd say it is fairing pretty well. All you've done is argued that a word doesn't mean something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barklolbark View Post
    word doesn't mean something.
    Right bud, that's all I've done.
    If you really think that, then obviously you've been pretty much brushing off the stuff I have been writing.

    "K guys, they used this word in the Bible, and this contradicts God's attributes so God is fake."

    Nah. Sorry. Gonna need more then that.

    No one in the Bible has been documented as laying eyes on God the Father.
    Prophets, Kings, people used by God were given messages,
    They never seen him with their eyes, If they described God as Almighty,
    or omnipotent, this is the description of a man. Simple as that.

    So If Abraham was given a message by God,
    then he goes and talks to someone saying "God almighty gave me a message today.." This is how he sees God. It doesn't mean God is exactly how Abraham describes him.

    Jesus on the other hand is a different story.
    He actually referred to God as almighty,
    or at least that's what the majority of Bibles have written,
    whether or not this was the actual word used is beyond me.
    Either way, not enough to convince me to walk away from my faith,
    or even second guess it really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Very high percentage there,
    but fair enough. There are many people that "think"
    they know enough about God, but we don't have all the answers.
    Either way.. we are talking about a single word here,
    and to base a debate on disproving God over 1 word really isn't going to cut it.

    As I said before, it's all rather trivial and won't sway a true believer.
    Being a "True" believer implies that you are already not inclined to be persuaded otherwise by argument or logic. Claiming to be true believer is a clear declaration of willful ignorance.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Being a "True" believer implies that you are already not inclined to be persuaded otherwise by argument or logic. Claiming to be true believer is a clear declaration of willful ignorance.
    "true believer" is just a bullshit term thrown around in order to pass judgement on believers of a religion.

    Honestly that "true believer" bullshit is just so ridiculous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    "true believer" is just a bullshit term thrown around in order to pass judgement on believers of a religion.

    Honestly that "true believer" bullshit is just so ridiculous.
    Uh..when I say true believer it simply means I truly believe in God, and I am not a "lukewarm believer" or someone that is unsure of God's existence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Being a "True" believer implies that you are already not inclined to be persuaded otherwise by argument or logic. Claiming to be true believer is a clear declaration of willful ignorance.
    Read above. Also, there is not a whole lot of logic in claiming you've disproved God by what may have very well been a transliteration, or a misunderstanding.

    The fact of the whole thing is I don't have the answers.
    I don't truly know if God is omnipotent or not.
    Men described him in the bible as having different types of characteristics,
    I couldn't tell you if they were accurate or not.
    I believe what I believe, you guys believe what you believe.
    I don't judge you for that, because first off it's not my place to.
    Secondly, Atheism is logical, it makes plenty of sense.
    I personally have just chosen a different belief, that's all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Uh..when I say true believer it simply means I truly believe in God, and I am not a "lukewarm believer" or someone that is unsure of God's existence.



    Read above. Also, there is not a whole lot of logic in claiming you've disproved God by what may have very well been a transliteration, or a misunderstanding.

    The fact of the whole thing is I don't have the answers.
    I don't truly know if God is omnipotent or not.
    Men described him in the bible as having different types of characteristics,
    I couldn't tell you if they were accurate or not.
    I believe what I believe, you guys believe what you believe.
    I don't judge you for that, because first off it's not my place to.
    Secondly, Atheism is logical, it makes plenty of sense.
    I personally have just chosen a different belief, that's all
    You? Christian? Don't make me shit my self, and i am constipated.
    (Protien shakes are bad for you..trust me)

    The hate you have for Muslims is unbelievable, you can say "No just you not muslims in general" seeing the reply from the Art section, "Fuck off sand nigger" i see the racism.

    I lol, and lol and lol if you seriously think your Christian [ CHRIST LIKE ].

    "Love your neighbours"

    YOUR A JOKE TO CHRISTIANITY. [after all the pastors and priests who make millions out of the religion]

    Christianity describes God as Human like, comparing god with his creation? HAHA.

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    I hope you conver to athiesm, it would make much more sense and would mean less embrassement for christians.

    Athiesm is much more logical than christianity. for sure, after all in christianity the world is flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Para DICE View Post
    You? Christian? Don't make me shit my self, and i am constipated.
    (Protien shakes are bad for you..trust me)

    The hate you have for Muslims is unbelievable, you can say "No just you not muslims in general" seeing the reply from the Art section, "Fuck off sand nigger" i see the racism.

    I lol, and lol and lol if you seriously think your Christian [ CHRIST LIKE ].

    "Love your neighbours"

    YOUR A JOKE TO CHRISTIANITY. [after all the pastors and priests who make millions out of the religion]

    Christianity describes God as Human like, comparing god with his creation? HAHA.

    --

    I hope you conver to athiesm, it would make much more sense and would mean less embrassement for christians.

    Athiesm is much more logical than christianity. for sure, after all in christianity the world is flat.
    [troll]
    Guise christians think the world is flat [/troll]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Para DICE View Post
    You? Christian? Don't make me shit my self, and i am constipated.
    (Protien shakes are bad for you..trust me)

    The hate you have for Muslims is unbelievable, you can say "No just you not muslims in general" seeing the reply from the Art section, "Fuck off sand nigger" i see the racism.

    I lol, and lol and lol if you seriously think your Christian [ CHRIST LIKE ].

    "Love your neighbours"

    YOUR A JOKE TO CHRISTIANITY. [after all the pastors and priests who make millions out of the religion]

    Christianity describes God as Human like, comparing god with his creation? HAHA.

    --

    I hope you conver to athiesm, it would make much more sense and would mean less embrassement for christians.

    Athiesm is much more logical than christianity. for sure, after all in christianity the world is flat.
    Right..
    So because I am a Christian I have to act like a perfect angel.
    Kind of defeats the purpose of Christs sacrifice don't you think?

    Dude, you don't even know your own religion..nevermind anything about another religion so please stop with your redundant attempts at insulting me.

    Btw, you're ignorant and of Arabic descent no?

    k, then you are indeed a sandnigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Para DICE View Post
    Athiesm is much more logical than christianity. for sure, after all in christianity the world is flat.
    And in Islam raping preadolescent girls results in them being killed for being "dirty", right? I like that, that's some very cool religion you got there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Right..
    So because I am a Christian I have to act like a perfect angel.
    Kind of defeats the purpose of Christs sacrifice don't you think?

    Dude, you don't even know your own religion..nevermind anything about another religion so please stop with your redundant attempts at insulting me.

    Btw, you're ignorant and of Arabic descent no?

    k, then you are indeed a sandnigger.
    Arabic decent? Nothxs born and raised a roman catholic.

    Someone failed.

    I don't even know my own religion? yeah says the kid who thought the quran presented the sun setting in murky water, when it clearly was from someones point of view.

    And i don't know my religion? im More christian then you are and so is my gf.

    Christians are meant to wear headscarfs 0.0001% of christians do (Nuns) who are really getting extinct.

    Christians live in a life of blasphemy, "though shall not use gods name in vein".

    Christians 24.7, "Jesus christ!" "oh for god sake" non stop phrases...


    Ok bro, Your god died mine never, nuff said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coeus View Post
    And in Islam raping preadolescent girls results in them being killed for being "dirty", right? I like that, that's some very cool religion you got there.
    I give you 10 seconds to notice your mistake:

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    "In Islam" FAILURE. sharia law is 70% man made by radical freaks in afghanistan, did you know the law in afghanistan isn't even sharia? its a man made radicilized law.

    Not Islamic law, islamic law is law of the quran, different.

    Unless you can point out the verse or hadith where it tells us to kill girls for being raped, then its not sharia or Islamic and your just stating a false.

    Naming a law sharia don't make it sharia.

    If i have 2 chocolates 1 dark 1 milk, but i call them both chocolate does it make it the same? No.
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    FUCK YOU.


    glad we solved this.
    After ethereal won every debate against you clearly,you get dirty.
    Nice...
    You have nothing else to say about christianity and it's falsehood,so why not attack?pathetic...


    I think it's about Jehovah.oops,blasphemy *rain of rocks monty python style*
    It's as islamic as the crusades.if you blame the crusades and other crap,we got more shit than you do to blame on your religion
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    Surprisingly.
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    whoever made this thread... you just got owned by Casavir...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaT- View Post
    [troll]
    Guise christians think the world is flat [/troll]
    1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

    Yeah the earth doesn't have an orbit right? ah so it does move?

    4 corners

    And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. [Revelations 7:1]

    Quote Originally Posted by Casavir View Post
    Hey visible

    FUCK YOU.


    glad we solved this.
    After ethereal won every debate against you clearly,you get dirty.
    Nice...
    You have nothing else to say about christianity and it's falsehood,so why not attack?pathetic...


    I think it's about Jehovah.oops,blasphemy *rain of rocks monty python style*
    It's as islamic as the crusades.if you blame the crusades and other crap,we got more shit than you do to blame on your religion
    Hehe "after ethereal WON" lol, christians..In denial.

    "I GET DIRTY" i got dirty because you scum christians QQ about Muslims not being peaceful, i get peaceful and that gives you an advantage of becoming more dirty, so yeah FUCK YOU as im now a dirty fighter. I assume you can't do anything about it.

    Christianity and its falsehood...open yours eyes dumbass im attacking it with its contradictions, you once again are indenial.

    Crusades? wtf...that last paragraph confused me.
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    you talk about extremists muslims and their falsehood,and false laws blablabla.Nothing to do with islam huh?
    YET YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT SHIT 'CHRISTIANS' MADE LIKE CRUSADES A ZILLION TIMES!
    so,as I said....oh nevermind.
    Your brain is too fucked to understand anything else,than your narrowminded,ignorant,completely and utterly stupid views about anything.

    /out
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    Surprisingly.
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    whoever made this thread... you just got owned by Casavir...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Para DICE View Post
    1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

    Yeah the earth doesn't have an orbit right? ah so it does move?

    4 corners

    And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. [Revelations 7:1]



    Hehe "after ethereal WON" lol, christians..In denial.

    "I GET DIRTY" i got dirty because you scum christians QQ about Muslims not being peaceful, i get peaceful and that gives you an advantage of becoming more dirty, so yeah FUCK YOU as im now a dirty fighter. I assume you can't do anything about it.

    Christianity and its falsehood...open yours eyes dumbass im attacking it with its contradictions, you once again are indenial.

    Crusades? wtf...that last paragraph confused me.
    brainwashed is brainwashed
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