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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    You believe in Nihilism? Alen I swear you're stalking me lol I didn't think anyone else on this forum would be able to understand Nihilism let alone someone else be a Nihilist themselves.
    I usually get called some nasty things when people find out I'm a Nihilist because they don't understand it, people think Nihilists believe everyone should die for some reason and that's not it at all /fp
    tl;dr because I'm lazy: I doubt you know my view, although I've been fascinated with Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and Heidegger for quite a while. If anything I tend towards nihilism, yes, though the way you seem to see everything doesn't quite coincide with my own interpretation of both past works and my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Registration View Post
    Atheism used to be just about not believing. Steve Perry would sing, “Don’t stop believin’,” atheists would answer, “Screw you, big nose,” and that was the extent of the rebellion.

    “Sorry, Mr. or Mrs. Religious Person. I’m busy baking muffins and I’m a non-believer. Good day.”

    That was it.

    These days it’s gotta be a whole dog and pony show. New age, atheist chic smart asses have turned simple non-belief and who-gives-a-shit lack of faith into its own stupid religion. Authors such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens are the L. Ron Hubbards of this new cult. And, yes, it is a cult like any religion because now atheists, in lieu of minding their own vapid beeswax, are holding conventions and are even trying to reverse their own baptisms.



    Yes, the Dawkinians are holding debaptisms, these hilarious, Andy Kaufmanesque geniuses.

    Ceremonies in at least states four states (mainly at douchey liberal colleges) have washed that holy water right out of these adorable little creatures’ hair via, of all things, a hair dryer. Yes, a hair dryer, presumably one like what Princess Vespa carted around in Spaceballs, will undo all the hurt and pain that that nasty Christening brought you way back when. And the dryers, according to the article, are marked “reason,” because nothing says reason like having some robed imbecile unbaptize you with a home appliance when any decent clergyman would stick that thing in this broad’s twat sideways.

    At these debaptisms, waitresses also serve “de-sacraments,” consisting of crackers and peanut butter, because an atheist’s gotta eat. This reporter is quite saddened to think how many times he’s de-sacramented himself over the years. Good thing only Ritz and Skippy truly have the power to take away the light of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

    Will a Hello Kitty hair dryer give these sardonic fuck sticks back the love their fathers never gave them? Only God…oops…I guess no one knows. Would a giant fan completely erase these fuckers’ memories of everything from that first confession to when they shit their pants in the third grade?

    Some say that every one of these assholes should take the beating that Jesus took, and I personally would like to give it to them with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire. That’ll make you forget the moment your crying parents held so dear, you sniveling little babies. Just because Daddy didn’t buy you the cell phone you prayed for or because a priest patted you on the head in a somewhat suggestive manner doesn’t mean you should mock religion until you need Him again.

    Said Jennifer Gray in this article (and believe me, I’ll never watch Dirty Dancing again, you bitch), these ceremonies are “a chance to laugh at the silly things I used to believe as a child. It helped me admit that it was OK to think the way I think and to not have any religious beliefs.”

    Little Jennifer’s summer is booked solid with ceremonies exorcising Santa Claus with a curling iron, the Easter Bunny with a coffee maker, and the time Uncle Paul buried his manhood in her with a shovel.

    These dopes, like Gary Mueller, are even petitioning churches to remove their names from baptismal records because they were baptized without consent. It’s rape by baptism! Why not get de-circumcised too, you fruit?

    Many atheists, like Pitzer College’s Phil Zuckerman, are saying, “We’re here. We’re secular. Deal with it,” and tracing the rise of smug atheism to George W. Bush’s presidency.

    This leads me to two questions. One, can we ban marriage between atheists? That I can get behind. And two, does this mean that at the end of Barack Obama’s presidency slavery might make a comeback?

    You call it a stretch. I call it Punch an Atheist Day.
    Sorry for being a lazy bitch, but I really wish you could make a shorter version, basically from what I can see you mentioned things like hairdryer, Hello Kitty and you quoted a lot of people then connected it to religion so not sure if it actually makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    tl;dr because I'm lazy: I doubt you know my view, although I've been fascinated with Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and Heidegger for quite a while. If anything I tend towards nihilism, yes, though the way you seem to see everything doesn't quite coincide with my own interpretation of both past works and my view.
    My view on Nihilism is a slight twist to the actual belief, I believe that the meaning of life is different for each person, but on another note I also have the belief that the Earth would be a much better place if Humans were never a factor. So in a sense my belief is a doppelganger. My own belief doesn't really fit in with Nihilism but at the same time I do believe that people need to find their own meaning to life. It's harder to explain over a forum board than in person.
    Last edited by Lehsyrus; 12-01-2011 at 04:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    My view on Nihilism is a slight twist to the actual belief, I believe that the meaning of life is different for each person, but on another note I also have the belief that the Earth would be a much better place if Humans were never a factor. So in a sense my belief is a doppelganger. My own belief doesn't really fit in with Nihilism but at the same time I do believe that people need to find their own meaning to life. It's harder to explain over a forum board than in person.
    How does subjective meaning within life contradict nihilistic views?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    How does subjective meaning within life contradict nihilistic views?
    Not really contradict, just on the basis that my view exist on two levels, my view yet the idea that people can chose their own meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecstasy View Post
    1. Atheists are resentfully anti-religious.
    2. Atheists incorrectly believe that they are not a religion.
    3. Atheists incorrectly believe in the ‘absence of belief’ myth.
    4. Atheists are self righteous.
    5. Atheists impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other religion.
    6. Atheists are blind fanatics.
    7. Atheists argue for the sake of winning without intention of coming to conclusion.
    8. Atheists cry and complain about anything religious.
    9. Atheists are emotionally unstable.
    10. Atheists discriminate against religious.
    11. Atheists are control freaks.
    12. Atheists are closed minded and ignorant.
    13. Atheists have little grip on reality.
    14. Atheists have no concept of logic.
    15. Atheists only wish to attack without intention of coming to conclusion.
    1. You're saying ALL atheists are like that? I don't mind my friends being religious.
    2. Atheism is not believing there is a deity.
    3. Myth? How would you know if it's a myth?
    4. Why can't religious people be self righteous? I'm pretty sure I know a lot of religious people who are self righteous.
    5. Really? Christians tries to convert people where ever they go, such as Africa and Asia. Do you hear Atheists telling people not to believe in anything?
    6. How are we blind? You were the guys who were told what to believe in the Middle Ages.
    7. No comment.
    8. Again, so does all other religions.
    9. I'm pretty sure all kinds of religious people could be emotionally unstable.
    10. There are other people who discriminate other religions, such as Germans back in the Holocaust. They massacred millions of Jews.
    11. How are we control freaks? I'm pretty sure the church in the Middle Ages basically controlled everyone.
    12. How are atheists closed minded, we weren't the one controlled by the church.
    13. No grip on reality? Galileo was imprisoned because he discovered the earth revolves around the sun.
    14. What does logic got to do with religion?
    15. I'm pretty sure there was a war over religion. Christians vs. Muslims. Pretty sure you got your asses whooped by Saladin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poison View Post

    it is scientific your born to pass on your genes to the next generation(reproduce)
    pure biology
    Well I know what you mean
    But I just roll with it, I'm interested to see what happens when I die, and I'll accept it once it happens, I don't think about these things and I'm perfectly happy being ignorant to these things. HURR DURR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecstasy View Post
    1. Atheists are resentfully anti-religious.
    2. Atheists incorrectly believe that they are not a religion.
    3. Atheists incorrectly believe in the ‘absence of belief’ myth.
    4. Atheists are self righteous.
    5. Atheists impose their beliefs and doctrine upon others more than any other religion.
    6. Atheists are blind fanatics.
    7. Atheists argue for the sake of winning without intention of coming to conclusion.
    8. Atheists cry and complain about anything religious.
    9. Atheists are emotionally unstable.
    10. Atheists discriminate against religious.
    11. Atheists are control freaks.
    12. Atheists are closed minded and ignorant.
    13. Atheists have little grip on reality.
    14. Atheists have no concept of logic.
    15. Atheists only wish to attack without intention of coming to conclusion.
    1. Not true, many of my friends are idio... I mean religious.
    2. If atheism is a religion then off is a TV channel.
    3. Complete bias, uneducated and unintelligent argument.
    4. I can say the same about priests.
    5. Christian and Islamic believers have waged wars to convert and or exterminate mass populations.
    6. Atheists are not fanatics, you should watch Jesus camp.
    7. Atheists argue in hopes of bettering the earth.
    8. Religion cries and complains about anything against there said religion, or non-religion.
    9. Religious nuts are emotionally unstable, again; Jesus camp.
    10. Everybody is secretly prejudice against anyone who does not share an opinion.
    11. J.E.S.U.S C.A.M.P - All religion brainwashes youth before they can think for themselves.
    12. Religious people are close minded and ignorant. The afterlife? Lmfao, cowards.
    13. Atheists beliefs ARE reality.
    14. Religion believes in rebirth, afterlife, incest, infanticide, and whole shit else. Atheists believe in science, logic, and truth.
    15. 9/11, the Teutonic order, jihads, crusades, ext.

    I need not argue with an uneducated idiot.

    You are completely bias, and these arguments are weak, only worth of responding to them is to rub your lunacy in your own face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noovaa View Post
    15. 9/11, the Teutonic order, jihads, crusades, ext.
    Add the Holocaust to that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Ragealot View Post

    Add the Holocaust to that as well.
    The holocaust wasn't a religious massacre in that similarity.

    The holocaust was genocide of the jewish RACE. Also, it was not done BECAUSE of religion like the crusades, jihads, etc. but was rather for the sake of genocide itself.

    People seem to not understand that jews are a race and Judaism is a religion.
    Much like how Arabic people are a race and Islam is a religion.

    In simpler terms, one is the other, but the other is not one.

    A venn diagram would help i guess but meh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    The holocaust wasn't a religious massacre in that similarity.

    The holocaust was genocide of the jewish RACE. Also, it was not done BECAUSE of religion like the crusades, jihads, etc. but was rather for the sake of genocide itself.

    People seem to not understand that jews are a race and Judaism is a religion.
    Much like how Arabic people are a race and Islam is a religion.

    In simpler terms, one is the other, but the other is not one.

    A venn diagram would help i guess but meh.
    This is true. There was absolutely no reasoning for the massacre of Jews. It was Hitler's stubbornness and retardation that drove him to seek his 'perfect race'. One which will never be achieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck v2 View Post
    So, if there was no afterlife, what's the point in enjoying life if when you die you'll not be able to remember that? You can enjoy all you want, but when it dissapears, what's the point of it?
    The point in enjoying life is that even though people wont remember anything after death, they don't have a reason to not enjoy life. For most people, positive actions and memories are better to deal with while alive than negative ones. I don't know whether I just made any sense or not but that is how I understand it. Personally I think life has no meaning and it doesn't matter how you life your life.

    TL;DR I have no idea what I am talking about.
    And the life that makes us what we are, is the life that burns in every star. Will it be that our legacy is just the dead machines of a senseless world?


    You jelly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poison View Post

    it is scientific your born to pass on your genes to the next generation(reproduce)
    pure biology
    But, science didn't create you didn't it?

    "“Religions are, by definition, metaphors, after all: God is a dream, a hope, a woman, an ironist, a father, a city, a house of many rooms, a watchmaker who left his prize chronometer in the desert, someone who loves you—even, perhaps, against all evidence, a celestial being whose only interest is to make sure your football team, army, business, or marriage thrives, prospers, and triumphs over all opposition. Religions are places to stand and look and act, vantage points from which to view the world. So none of this is happening. Such things could not occur. Never a word of it is literally true.” .”
    I was Martin Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Johnson View Post

    But, science didn't create you didn't it?
    Science being an intellectual activity, no it didn't. However you're misinterpreting Poison's rather poorly formed statement, what he's saying is that yes, we can define life in a scientific manner and that yes, our goal in life is (at least on some level and at least partially) to reproduce and maintain our species.

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    If you know this is your only life and you don't "respawn", what is the point in not enjoying your life?
    Aaaaand life has a meaning, it's called a child.
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