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    Humanity needs religion. Sure, it has created much conflict throughout the years, but - Nietzche dixit - if one can answer the why of life, one can cope with almost any how. And the believe in a superior being(s) gives us that why. I read in a study made by Oxford University that 3 year-olds, when asked if their mother could know the contents of a closed box, almost always said that they would. However, by the time they reached 4 years of age, they began to understand that their mothers were not omniscient. We are also keen on believing on the afterlife and such. It's just a way of coping with the struggle in the day-to-day basis. I do not believe that religion will ever be suppressed or that the amount of atheists will ever surpass the amount of theists in the world. It's only human nature.
    God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Don't need proof to say something isn't real
    What
    shut the fuck up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nathan View Post
    Humanity needs religion. Sure, it has created much conflict throughout the years, but - Nietzche dixit - if one can answer the why of life, one can cope with almost any how. And the believe in a superior being(s) gives us that why. I read in a study made by Oxford University that 3 year-olds, when asked if their mother could know the contents of a closed box, almost always said that they would. However, by the time they reached 4 years of age, they began to understand that their mothers were not omniscient. We are also keen on believing on the afterlife and such. It's just a way of coping with the struggle in the day-to-day basis. I do not believe that religion will ever be suppressed or that the amount of atheists will ever surpass the amount of theists in the world. It's only human nature.
    Humanity doesn't need religion. Humanity needs structure which doesn't have to be religion. You don't need religion to believe in god. If you haven't been exposed to religion until a better part of your brain was done forming, you'd think it was dumb as shit.. I wasn't exposed until I was 12 and even then I thought it was dumb as shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noob555 View Post
    What
    shut the fuck up

    ---------- Post added at 02:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:50 PM ----------


    Humanity doesn't need religion. Humanity needs structure which doesn't have to be religion. You don't need religion to believe in god. If you haven't been exposed to religion until a better part of your brain was done forming, you'd think it was dumb as shit.. I wasn't exposed until I was 12 and even then I thought it was dumb as shit.
    Exactly, If people had never been exposed to religion, do you think the world be just chaos? Definitely not. If nobody had ever thought about the idea of religion, I wouldn't just wake up one day and instantly think everything worked like that. Religion is spoonfed and brainwashed into people.
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noob555 View Post
    What
    shut the fuck up
    Explain .
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    Troll nomination. Allah and Muhammad for 1400 years of bullshit.

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    How god is not real how you are here then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat-Man View Post
    How god is not real how you are here then ?
    Shut up egyptian ,
    Allah exits he was just sucking my loooooooong black dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat-Man View Post
    How god is not real how you are here then ?
    Satan .
    Quote Originally Posted by Extravagant View Post
    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    Troll nomination. Allah and Muhammad for 1400 years of bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaal Nathrakh View Post


    Exactly, If people had never been exposed to religion, do you think the world be just chaos? Definitely not. If nobody had ever thought about the idea of religion, I wouldn't just wake up one day and instantly think everything worked like that. Religion is spoonfed and brainwashed into people.
    What you just said is that the only evil in humans comes from religion. Simplistic and false. There would still be the chaos we have seen under a different pseudonym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post


    What you just said is that the only evil in humans comes from religion. Simplistic and false. There would still be the chaos we have seen under a different pseudonym.
    That's not what I meant at all. My point was most religious types play the card of 'If you don't have religion, how can you have morals". I stated that the world can still function without a set religious structure. It had nothing to do with from where evil originates.
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    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaal Nathrakh View Post
    That's not what I meant at all. My point was most religious types play the card of 'If you don't have religion, how can you have morals". I stated that the world can still function with a set religious structure. It had nothing to do with from where evil originates.
    Probable because you used "definitely" in your claim, which is an absolute term instead of a qualifying term
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    Troll nomination. Allah and Muhammad for 1400 years of bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Probable because you used "definitely" in your claim, which is an absolute term instead of a qualifying term
    I meant that the world would not be automatically thrust into chaos simply due to religion not existing. Religion not existing would not affect anything was my main point. I can have morals without religion, I can be an upstanding citizen without religion. There will always be chaos in this world, and nothing can be done about it. Religion does not hold back the barriers of chaos, nor does it singly hold the key to morality.
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    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaal Nathrakh View Post

    I meant that the world would not be automatically thrust into chaos simply due to religion not existing. Religion not existing would not affect anything was my main point. I can have morals without religion, I can be an upstanding citizen without religion. There will always be chaos in this world, and nothing can be done about it. Religion does not hold back the barriers of chaos, nor does it singly hold the key to morality.
    It was the way you worded your original post that threw me off. I am a very literal person. Also, people that believe religion is the only source of morality based upon psychological actions are extremists. Such as the Westboro Baptist Church, where they believe morality is based purely on their interpretation of the Christian religion, whereas definitive separate Christian factions who believe in the social clause of morality are completely different. In that you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666HiddenMaster666 View Post


    Probable because you used "definitely" in your claim, which is an absolute term instead of a qualifying term
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    Don't need proof to say something isn't real
    andddd we're done here
    stfu

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    Quote Originally Posted by noob555 View Post
    andddd we're done here
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    The problem is that we're people. People are shitty beings, you just gotta keep that in mind.
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    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    Troll nomination. Allah and Muhammad for 1400 years of bullshit.

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