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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    >U.S throws 2 nuclear bombs in Japan -> Christianity is peace.
    Only 4.7% of U.S. is Catholic of the whole population..

    Plus all these people don't make the decision to throw nuclear bombs, the government and president do, and the % of the government that is Catholic/Christian is about less than 1%... So you're blaming all the 100% of Catholics for things that only less than 1% of Catholics did? Doesn't make any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin13 Jr View Post
    Only 4.7% of U.S. is Catholic of the whole population..
    Christianity
    The largest religion in the US is Christianity, claimed by the majority of the population (76% in 2008[3]). From those queried, roughly 51% of Americans are Protestants, 24% are Catholics, 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.7% have affiliations with various other Christian denominations.[13][14] Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin13 Jr View Post
    Plus all these people don't make the decision to throw nuclear bombs, the government and president do, and the % of the government that is Catholic/Christian is about less than 1%... So you're blaming all the 100% of Catholics for things that only less than 1% of Catholics did? Doesn't make any sense.
    Obama is christian !!! Decided to attack Syria ? Now christianity is peace ? LOL . I'm not just saying that If any christian isn't peaceful doesn't mean the christianity (religion) is not peaceful ... This is what I'm trying to prove , not because Al Qa'eda or some shit makes Islam is not peaceful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin13 Jr View Post
    Only 4.7% of U.S. is Catholic of the whole population..

    Plus all these people don't make the decision to throw nuclear bombs, the government and president do, and the % of the government that is Catholic/Christian is about less than 1%... So you're blaming all the 100% of Catholics for things that only less than 1% of Catholics did? Doesn't make any sense.
    And you're blaming 94% of the Muslims for things that only less than 6% of Muslims did? Doesn't make any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    And you're blaming 94% of the Muslims for things that only less than 6% of Muslims did? Doesn't make any sense.
    I never said anything... Wtf are you talking about?

    Plus, your "book" says kill others or something like that a Muslim person showed me once. In the Bible it says "If a person slaps you on your right cheek, let him at the other also".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    Obama is christian !!! Decided to attack Syria ? Now christianity is peace ? LOL . I'm not just saying that If any christian isn't peaceful doesn't mean the christianity (religion) is not peaceful ... This is what I'm trying to prove , not because Al Qa'eda or some shit makes Islam is not peaceful.
    You actually think that 'Obama' is Christian/peaceful? You need to open your eyes to the real world buddy. 'Obama' is the end of the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    Christianity
    The largest religion in the US is Christianity, claimed by the majority of the population (76% in 2008[3]). From those queried, roughly 51% of Americans are Protestants, 24% are Catholics, 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.7% have affiliations with various other Christian denominations.[13][14] Christianity was introduced during the period of European colonization.

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    Wikipedia? Alright let me go change that real quick lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin13 Jr View Post
    I never said anything... Wtf are you talking about?

    Plus, your "book" says kill others or something like that a Muslim person showed me once. In the Bible it says "If a person slaps you on your right cheek, let him at the other also".
    I am not saying anything about the bible , by the way no one can believe (no idiot do that) this sentence in the bible , this sentence must be said by an idiot not by God.

    My book says Qur'an (2:190) - "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."

    Isn't this peace enough ? Fight those who fight you and do not transgress !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin13 Jr View Post
    Wikipedia? Alright let me go change that real quick lol.

    Never get information from Wikipedia, has your school ever taught you that?
    Why should my school tell me that ? It isn't about school dumb.
    Didn't your parents tell you that some pages in Wikipedia cannot edited because it is written by the owners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [D]opeDog View Post

    Why should my school tell me that ? It isn't about school dumb.
    Didn't your parents tell you that some pages in Wikipedia cannot edited because it is written by the owners?
    Who the hell are you? I didn't even talk to you...

    And no lol, you can edit any WIKI text page. Send me one I'll edit it.

    Also, you should fix your grammar before taking the actions of calling me 'dumb'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [D]opeDog View Post

    I am not saying anything about the bible , by the way no one can believe (no idiot do that) this sentence in the bible , this sentence must be said by an idiot not by God.
    Are you saying Jesus is an idiot for promoting peace and love?

    And like you said, "My Book Says Qur'an (2:190) - "Fight In The Way Of Allah Those Who Fight You But Do Not Transgress. Indeed. Allah Does Not Like Transgressors."" That is exactly my point right there, if someone does something to you, get revenge, which is what all the countries due that leads us to war, and soon leading us to the end of the world with nuclear war. If everyone was peaceful like Jesus was, we wouldn't be humans, but my point is you need to think peaceful and we wouldn't have all these wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin13 Jr View Post
    Are you saying Jesus is an idiot for promoting peace and love?

    And like you said, "My Book Says Qur'an (2:190) - "Fight In The Way Of Allah Those Who Fight You But Do Not Transgress. Indeed. Allah Does Not Like Transgressors."" That is exactly my point right there, if someone does something to you, get revenge, which is what all the countries due that leads us to war, and soon leading us to the end of the world with nuclear war. If everyone was peaceful like Jesus was, we wouldn't be humans, but my point is you need to think peaceful and we wouldn't have all these wars.
    In my case , Jesus is a "prophet" and I'm saying idiots about those who "distorted" the bible .

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin13 Jr View Post
    That is exactly my point right there, if someone does something to you, get revenge, which is what all the countries due that leads us to war, and soon leading us to the end of the world with nuclear war. If everyone was peaceful like Jesus was, we wouldn't be humans, but my point is you need to think peaceful and we wouldn't have all these wars.
    Fight those who fights you not get "revenge" , do you even know the difference between the revenge and the defend ? Some one fight you - defend him . Some on killed you - revenge. In this case It is "defend". Wait , wait and another wait . Who the fuck made the nuclear weapons and bombs ? wasn't the U.S and Russia in the WWII ... The middle east (muslims) didn't join the war. By the way It is his right to defend himself .. isn't it?

    And wait in the Qur'an (not the verses exactly I'm saying what it says as general) - It says If they asked for peace then go for it even if they are atheists or w/e.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [D]opeDog View Post

    In my case , Jesus is a "prophet" and I'm saying idiots about those who "distorted" the bible .


    Fight those who fights you not get "revenge" , do you even know the difference between the revenge and the defend ? Some one fight you - defend him . Some on killed you - revenge. In this case It is "defend". Wait , wait and another wait . Who the fuck made the nuclear weapons and bombs ? wasn't the U.S and Russia in the WWII ... The middle east (muslims) didn't join the war. By the way It is his right to defend himself .. isn't it?

    And wait in the Qur'an (not the verses exactly I'm saying what it says as general) - It says If they asked for peace then go for it even if they are atheists or w/e.
    1. Every religious text is distorted as they have all been written by humans, and humans perceive scenarios as they can relate to their period of time as well as geographical location.

    2. You can't get revenge if you're dead. "Fight in the way of Allah" if your Arab brothers are doing this, then that means fighting "in the way of Allah" is to send children into the battlefield, suicide bomb innocent civilians, and take hostages? I can understand the difference between extremism and religion, there are always those who take it too far, but if your holy text explicitly says to "Fight in the way of Allah", then wouldn't that mean the terrorists are technically doing so?

    3. Hitler would have decimated the Middle East next. If the U.S. and Russia had not entered the war, then Germany would have been successful in creating the first, and only working nuclear warhead. The Nazi's would have decimated most of the world, and then came after the Middle East with their advanced technology for the oil. This is fact.

    4. If the Qu'ran says to "go for peace", then why does Iran consistently and blatantly ignore any efforts to discuss their nuclear program, as well tend to hide a plethora of information from the UN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    You can't get revenge if you're dead. "Fight in the way of Allah" if your Arab brothers are doing this, then that means fighting "in the way of Allah" is to send children into the battlefield, suicide bomb innocent civilians, and take hostages? I can understand the difference between extremism and religion, there are always those who take it too far, but if your holy text explicitly says to "Fight in the way of Allah", then wouldn't that mean the terrorists are technically doing so?
    1-Qur'an is not distorted because it has many miracles that was discovered , If It was "created" (not written) by human then how did they know all this miracles?
    2-Revenge can still be done if you have a brother or w/e that can revenge for you ... not something but I'm just explaining the difference. Doesn't matter what is the "way" of Allah that he will "fight" by . The thing that matters is that they fought you. By the way It is fight "those who fight you" so If you think that all the retards who suicide is fighting those who fight them is right ... then you are like him ... they are such terrorists.
    3-Yeah , you're right . but do you think by killing many of innocents is legit or will finish some one who want to kill all ? Fuck this logic. You could finish him without doing this kind of "killing" innocents, destroying "homes" and making the world more hostile . The Mongols where going to occupy the world and destroy it and he started with the middle east and the country which stopped them (Egypt) didn't do that or create whatever against the environment and the humanity.
    4-Iran is a shi'aa country (Shi'aas who insults Aisha and the companions of the prophet) . Then why the U.S doesn't stop creating nuclear weapons(not only the U.S, the other countries as well) Why Israel doesn't stop creating chemical and nuclear weapons ? ..... Again and again, do not rate the religion by the followers but rate the followers by the religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [D]opeDog View Post

    1-Qur'an is not distorted because it has many miracles that was discovered , If It was "created" (not written) by human then how did they know all this miracles?
    2-Revenge can still be done if you have a brother or w/e that can revenge for you ... not something but I'm just explaining the difference. Doesn't matter what is the "way" of Allah that he will "fight" by . The thing that matters is that they fought you. By the way It is fight "those who fight you" so If you think that all the retards who suicide is fighting those who fight them is right ... then you are like him ... they are such terrorists.
    3-Yeah , you're right . but do you think by killing many of innocents is legit or will finish some one who want to kill all ? Fuck this logic. You could finish him without doing this kind of "killing" innocents, destroying "homes" and making the world more hostile . The Mongols where going to occupy the world and destroy it and he started with the middle east and the country which stopped them (Egypt) didn't do that or create whatever against the environment and the humanity.
    4-Iran is a shi'aa country (Shi'aas who insults Aisha and the companions of the prophet) . Then why the U.S doesn't stop creating nuclear weapons(not only the U.S, the other countries as well) Why Israel doesn't stop creating chemical and nuclear weapons ? ..... Again and again, do not rate the religion by the followers but rate the followers by the religion.
    1. Many people can imagine an idea and call it a miracle. Many aspects of the Christian Bible have so called "miracles" in them, as well as references to the future of society that are extremely close to what we have today (Revelation 9:7 - 10 all about locusts preparing for battle with crowns of gold and human-esque faces, had breastplates of iron and sounded like thousands of thundering horses, had tails and stings like scorpions with the power to torment people for months). Many call that a "premonition" to jets, but it can very easily be a coincidence. Look at Star Trek, in the show they had pocket communicators (this was before cell phones), now we literally have "pocket communicators". It's very easy to link many things that have happened in the past to items we have today thanks to human imagination.

    2. I never said I believe what they do is correct, I am simply stating that because of that verse in the Qur'an, many extremists believe what they are doing is correct which can easily be skewed out of proportion by a weak mind. I personally would not want any conflicting material such as that in my faith.

    3. So you're saying the U.S. we're wrong to go to war and risk potential innocent civilian casualties to stop a man who was murdering an entire population of humans, killing people who did not agree with him, had soldiers that killed their own kind if they didn't give them free shit, and was enslaving millions of people? That logic is skewed if I have ever heard.

    4. The United States as of 2010 has been dismantling nuclear armaments within conjunction with Russia. However, the United States will never remove the entire nuclear force it has as long as there are threatening countries that are creating nuclear weapons as well. Israel never signed the partisan treaty for nuclear discontinuation, and as such are not subject to scrutiny by the U.S. for their creation of nuclear weapons. The reason we consistently go after Iran is for the hostility they have shown on a consistent basis against the U.S.

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