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    Quote Originally Posted by AS-Molaar View Post

    Hey ignorant , what's up?

    I gave you the explanation and you simply say something isn't in the Qur'an .
    No, I simply quoted your own words back to you as you proved yourself wrong in plain text. Thanks for being lazy though, it makes it easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    i still cant find the word having sex with your slaves any where

    today i even asked a teacher..

    he also said your interpretation is wrong...

    any way i would love to help you understand the Quran better
    if your willing to understand it that is

    So basically what you are saying is that you do not accept english translations of the quran, by Islamic scholars.


    That's nice, but since you pretty much have just admitted to denying even your own holy book, I don't think there is anything to be gained from debating with you.
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    I mean what am I going to debate about? I can't post verses from the quran or hadith because you don't accept them. Islamic history is completely lost on you since you probably don't even know how to research or do anything but "ask your teacher", so anything I'd post would just be a deniable source or you could say it's unrelated even though most of it is still present.
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    It seems like you might be a bit too young for this section. If you are just asking your teacher and such, and taking their word on it as absolute, you might want to come back when you are older.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    No, I simply quoted your own words back to you as you proved yourself wrong in plain text. Thanks for being lazy though, it makes it easy.




    So basically what you are saying is that you do not accept english translations of the quran, by Islamic scholars.


    That's nice, but since you pretty much have just admitted to denying even your own holy book, I don't think there is anything to be gained from debating with you.
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    I mean what am I going to debate about? I can't post verses from the quran or hadith because you don't accept them. Islamic history is completely lost on you since you probably don't even know how to research or do anything but "ask your teacher", so anything I'd post would just be a deniable source or you could say it's unrelated even though most of it is still present.
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    It seems like you might be a bit too young for this section. If you are just asking your teacher and such, and taking their word on it as absolute, you might want to come back when you are older.

    i never claim that these people are my teachers..

    the Quran was in Arabic the person interpreting the Quran can be wrong,if you read the Quran in Arabic nothing of such manner is said hence sir your argument is invalid ...

    and yes i am young only 17 atm....


    tell me 1 place where the word `having sex with slaves is written `
    even in plain English...
    it should be linked with Muhammad ( S.a.w.w)
    sir if you cant prove such then i say GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR
    your argument with us is invalid dont hate .
    peace.

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    Again, if you don't take the translations or the original text as legitimate, why bother? Its not even an interpretation, its the literal, unbiased translation and original text of Muhammad's word. Yet you deny it.


    Saying an argument is invalid doesn't actually make it invalid lol.


    If you want to ragequit, that's all good. But don't blame it on me not providing sources when you deny the quran.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    i never claim that these people are my teachers..

    the Quran was in Arabic the person interpreting the Quran can be wrong,if you read the Quran in Arabic nothing of such manner is said hence sir your argument is invalid ...

    and yes i am young only 17 atm....


    tell me 1 place where the word `having sex with slaves is written `
    even in plain English...
    it should be linked with Muhammad ( S.a.w.w)
    sir if you cant prove such then i say GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR
    your argument with us is invalid dont hate .
    peace.
    Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..."
    Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."
    Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good"
    I am the seer in the dark,
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    Synapses fray,
    my form now vivid,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..."
    Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."
    Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good"


    where does it say u can have sex with them without marriage.....
    and where does that promote slavery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    where does it say u can have sex with them without marriage.....
    and where does that promote slavery?
    "Whom their right hand possesses".
    ​Meaning slaves.
    I am the seer in the dark,
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    and proprietor of all.
    A miasma,
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    blackmonger of Inlé,
    valediction.
    Synapses fray,
    my form now vivid,
    as torpor sets and blood grows tepid.
    With every ounce of flesh now offered,
    I hold your corpse within my coffers.
    Knitted cells now split asunder,
    stand alongside me brother.

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    the last one is promoting war booty not slaves.. read the entire verse >_<
    not just 1 passage

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    the last one is promoting war booty not slaves.. read the entire verse >_<
    not just 1 passage
    Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"
    Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..."
    Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means praise be to Allah."
    I am the seer in the dark,
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    valediction.
    I am the sum of all your parts,
    and proprietor of all.
    A miasma,
    the conclusion,
    blackmonger of Inlé,
    valediction.
    Synapses fray,
    my form now vivid,
    as torpor sets and blood grows tepid.
    With every ounce of flesh now offered,
    I hold your corpse within my coffers.
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    stand alongside me brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"
    Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..."
    Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means praise be to Allah."
    Fist of all , the Qur'an is Arabic , and I'm Arabian so.

    Surat Al-'Ahzab [33:50] - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ?????? here is the Arabic text.

    Explanation:
    Allah made lawful wives to the prophet and he can marry her If she was even If she is your daughter of your paternal uncles and who emigrated with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AS-Molaar View Post

    Fist of all , the Qur'an is Arabic , and I'm Arabian so.

    Surat Al-'Ahzab [33:50] - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ?????? here is the Arabic text.

    Explanation:
    Allah made lawful wives to the prophet and he can marry her If she was even If she is your daughter of your paternal uncles and who emigrated with you.
    That's nice, but irrelevant.

    You just posted what he did back to him and told him it meant something different, although it is the exact same translation in your post.
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    More to the point, you lack basic reading comprehension skills in arabic, much less english.


    If understand what you posted, you'd realize it states that the prophet is able to have sex with the slaves and then he is able to marry them if he so desires.

    "in order that there be no discomfort"
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    The lulz, you morons keep digging yourself a deeper hole.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hassanakbar View Post
    the last one is promoting war booty not slaves.. read the entire verse >_<
    not just 1 passage
    Slaves were booty in war. How.......how do you not understand this? Prisoners of war were made into slaves by the Islamic army.

    (also lol if we related this to palestine.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymerian View Post
    I'm not Muslim, but even with what is stated, it doesn't make all Muslim's violent.
    what i hate on this quote is that you speak in name of everyone
    how do you know that all muslim aren't violent
    they all get butthurted if you insult their religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delko DJ View Post


    what i hate on this quote is that you speak in name of everyone
    how do you know that all muslim aren't violent
    they all get butthurted if you insult their religion
    Living proof over here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lame View Post
    Islam is indeed a peaceful religion, I don't blame Americans for thinking Islam is not peaceful,
    never seen the video tho, my work keep blocking every single website out there.
    Are you kidding me? Are you really fucking saying this?

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    dude im a muslim and if your saying that Muslims are violent people....then go **** ur self cuz u r a ***********************

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