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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Are you fucking daft?
    ​What about "Post your sources" can you not get through your empty skull?
    I have the fucking sources which I made the "proof" from and I posted it but I shall not really post it but anyways see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post
    Didn't quite follow whatever was going on in here.
    But hey, OP. - Why and what would make your source more believable than the others provided?
    I already have more sources than I posted but I didn't want to post it for him to just look up to the fucking history which he every time tells me to read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    I already have more sources than I posted but I didn't want to post it for him to just look up to the fucking history which he every time tells me to read it.
    That's some complex grammar, I didn't see any sources up there and you still didn't answer my question:
    Why and what would make your source(s) more believable than the others provided?

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    Even in the off-chance that you're correct, your theory would only prove that there are striking inconsistencies in the Quran.
    All you're really accomplishing is furthering how unbelievable the Quran is, and for that, I thank you.
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post
    Even in the off-chance that you're correct, your theory would only prove that there are striking inconsistencies in the Quran.
    All you're really accomplishing is furthering how unbelievable the Quran is, and for that, I thank you.
    Isn't the most religious books kind of inconsistent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post


    Isn't the most religious books kind of inconsistent?
    Most of them are as they're written by thousands of different individuals.
    They all come out as a jumbled clusterfuck.
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Most of them are as they're written by thousands of different individuals.
    They all come out as a jumbled clusterfuck.
    What it must feel like to be stupid enough to enjoy that clusterfuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post


    That's some complex grammar, I didn't see any sources up there and you still didn't answer my question:
    Why and what would make your source(s) more believable than the others provided?
    And what sources he provided ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy View Post


    That's some complex grammar, I didn't see any sources up there and you still didn't answer my question:
    Why and what would make your source(s) more believable than the others provided?
    And what sources he provided ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post
    Even in the off-chance that you're correct, your theory would only prove that there are striking inconsistencies in the Quran.
    All you're really accomplishing is furthering how unbelievable the Quran is, and for that, I thank you.
    :/ Allah has never mentioned Aisha in the Qur'an neither when Muhammad married her or maybe you meant something another than what I understood from you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Most of them are as they're written by thousands of different individuals.
    They all come out as a jumbled clusterfuck.
    I respect your kind of "opinion" because it isn't true .
    If you'd read about it , It was firstly written in kind of materials in the prophet's time then It was written in books or stored in books after like 80 - 110 years of the prophet's death. Also If you don't believe in it , look in the Qur'an verses about the science or the miracles and then look in the something that happened of them and that which still didn't happen you will see how could that happen If it wasn't a true book from a real god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    And what sources he provided ?
    Fucking Quran excerpts?
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Fucking Quran excerpts?
    And do you realize the difference between the Qur'an and the Hadith ? by the way the source which he mentioned was quoted from me to tell him that it can be wrong.
    Quran : Allah words which must be followed.
    Hadith : Prophet words which should be followed and it is really depending in the words itself (The hadith can be true (right) and can be fake(not exactly true)).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    And do you realize the difference between the Qur'an and the Hadith ? by the way the source which he mentioned was quoted from me to tell him that it can be wrong.
    Quran : Allah words which must be followed.
    Hadith : Prophet words which should be followed and it is really depending in the words itself (The hadith can be true (right) and can be fake(not exactly true)).
    Blindly following a piece of paper is kind of silly isn't it, I'd call it being blind.

    So, what you're saying is that it doesn't really matter what's in the book or not, because it can be true and it can be fake.
    - In short, you basically said that it's worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coituz View Post

    And do you realize the difference between the Qur'an and the Hadith ? by the way the source which he mentioned was quoted from me to tell him that it can be wrong.
    Quran : Allah words which must be followed.
    Hadith : Prophet words which should be followed and it is really depending in the words itself (The hadith can be true (right) and can be fake(not exactly true)).
    You know, its about time we ended this.

    Do you believe in the Hadith? Yes or no?

    --------

    The sources you listed are actually less valid than testimony from Aisha and writing from people of the time*(hadith). It being based 600 years later and with majority of the islamic community already agreeing on this subject(due to the many Islamic sources), its almost silly for us to argue that the hadith are valid when it is already accepted by the Muslim community.
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    SO either tell me that you don't believe in the Hadith or that you do. None of this "it could be right it could not be" that's just trying to be ignorant.


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