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    If proving God exists is too difficult or impossible due to what is said in the Bible, then I suppose I'm going to stay an atheist.
    I cannot simply believe some higher entity is controlling our very lives we fight for day by day and just happens to everywhere at all times.

    Here's something for you:
    If God is all-knowing, then that would mean he knows the feeling of rape, murder, self-pleasure, ect.
    But isn't God also all-good? How could he be all-good if he knows the feeling of sinful acts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rileyjstrickland View Post
    *Modern Science
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raple Syrup View Post
    If proving God exists is too difficult or impossible due to what is said in the Bible, then I suppose I'm going to stay an atheist.
    I cannot simply believe some higher entity is controlling our very lives we fight for day by day and just happens to everywhere at all times.

    Here's something for you:
    If God is all-knowing, then that would mean he knows the feeling of rape, murder, self-pleasure, ect.
    But isn't God also all-good? How could he be all-good if he knows the feeling of sinful acts?
    It's all god's plan.

    *Insert Holocaust, Gulags, 9/11, War, Greed, Hate, Murder, Intolerance here*
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    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
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    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embrace. View Post
    Well I don't even know what theist means, didn't know it existed.
    To not know what theist means is to not know what atheist means. Read some books before you post about this sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    It's all god's plan.

    *Insert Holocaust, Gulags, 9/11, War, Greed, Hate, Murder, Intolerance here*
    I hate that argument. If there is some sort of higher deity, I would prefer them to let people do whatever the fuck they want and commit these heinous acts rather than to make us all little puppets who butt fuck each other with smiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
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    I hate that argument. If there is some sort of higher deity, I would prefer them to let people do whatever the fuck they want and commit these heinous acts rather than to make us all little puppets who butt fuck each other with smiles.[/B]
    He does allow is to do so~
    We may be able to envision a world without evil, but we would not be in it. Humans are sinful. We have a fallen and depraved nature (Job 15:14; Isaiah 64:6; Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 5:12-13; 3:10-11, 23; Titus 3:3; 1 John 1:8). This is why there is evil in the world. Why did God not simply make us so that we could not be sinful? This is the question of free will. Without free will, we would be God's puppets. We could not truly love God. Because He desired to have a real relationship with us – one that involves choice – He had to allow for evil to exist.

    We may say that God could still give us free will while at the same time preventing the consequences of evil. This becomes a question of degrees. We may want God to intervene in the case of murder or rape. But do we want God to intervene in the case of our own idolatry? Sin is not graded on a sliding scale. All sin is an offense to God, and it all separates us from Him equally. An unsaved person whose worst sin is that of gossip is just as unsaved as a nonbeliever who is a serial killer. If God were to intervene and prevent evil, He would have to remove us. Plus, if God were to prevent all the negative consequences of our actions, would we really have free will?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfrye View Post
    Meeting someone special is modern Science?
    In the event that it's a miracle to met them, modern science probably was a part of it, unless they met the person by walking around a shit ton.

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    Lemme get this straight. You believe in the christian god because you have faith.

    But that means the Hindu gods exist right?

    :/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Lemme get this straight. You believe in the christian god because you have faith.

    But that means the Hindu gods exist right?

    :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Lemme get this straight. You believe in the christian god because you have faith.

    But that means the Hindu gods exist right?

    :/
    No? Christians only believe there is one and only God. It's in the 10 commandments.

    #2 "And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.You shall have no other gods before me."

    I wish that people who say they are atheists would at least read the Bible so they have some sort of understanding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lehsyrus View Post
    Christians bitch at Atheists other screaming how they're are all the most ignorant people in the world for believing in God. The other counters back that Atheists are going to hell. Meanwhile, those who do not believe in organized religion yet have a belief in a deity find both parties to be obnoxious, ignorant, jaded, and flat out pathetic.
    Not many Christians care about atheist, people who worship Satan. That is a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfrye View Post
    No? Christians only believe there is one and only God. It's in the 10 commandments.

    #2 "And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.You shall have no other gods before me."

    I wish that people who say they are atheists would at least read the Bible so they have some sort of understanding.

    "It can't be true because it's not what I believe."

    :/

    Think about it.

    Edit: Or you could say "It's only true because I believe in it".

    Either way, it makes no sense that people would dismiss other religions as false on the grounds that their religious text says they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfrye View Post
    No? Christians only believe there is one and only God. It's in the 10 commandments.

    #2 "And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.You shall have no other gods before me."

    I wish that people who say they are atheists would at least read the Bible so they have some sort of understanding.
    I have read the bible, many times over. It's full of metaphoric shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfrye View Post
    No? Christians only believe there is one and only God. It's in the 10 commandments.

    #2 "And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.You shall have no other gods before me."

    I wish that people who say they are atheists would at least read the Bible so they have some sort of understanding.
    Reading the bible in its entirety was actually one of the factors that contributed to me renouncing Christianity.
    When the earth is changed into a humid dungeon,
    In which Hope like a bat
    Goes beating the walls with her timid wings
    And knocking her head against the rotten ceiling;
    When the rain stretching out its endless train
    Imitates the bars of a vast prison
    And a silent horde of loathsome spiders
    Comes to spin their webs in the depths of our brains,
    All at once the bells leap with rage
    And hurl a frightful roar at heaven,
    Even as wandering spirits with no country
    Burst into a stubborn, whimpering cry.
    — And without drums or music, long hearses
    Pass by slowly in my soul; Hope, vanquished,
    Weeps, and atrocious, despotic Anguish
    On my bowed skull plants her black flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aborted View Post

    Reading the bible in its entirety was actually one of the factors that contributed to me renouncing Christianity.
    A true Christian cannot do that. Counterfeits do it all the time. Once you are born through Christ you cannot be unborn.....
    So if you were a True believer and if Christianity isn't a sham, you will be resting in heaven when you die.

    I may have marked I believe in God, but I have hard times believing in the Christian God. I also do not favor and of the atheist theorems because being created out of nothing seems unreal. Eg. Big Bang Theory. I consider my self more agnostic than anything.


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