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    Quote Originally Posted by TransientBot View Post
    It's the flying spaghetti monster actually.
    Let those who follow the more general pasta god be at peace.


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    Flying Spaghetti Monster? Too many carbs.

    Flying broccoli? That's more like it.







    Lmfao, what has the debate section come to?

    "“Religions are, by definition, metaphors, after all: God is a dream, a hope, a woman, an ironist, a father, a city, a house of many rooms, a watchmaker who left his prize chronometer in the desert, someone who loves you—even, perhaps, against all evidence, a celestial being whose only interest is to make sure your football team, army, business, or marriage thrives, prospers, and triumphs over all opposition. Religions are places to stand and look and act, vantage points from which to view the world. So none of this is happening. Such things could not occur. Never a word of it is literally true.” .”
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    Proof is a difficult concept for some. For starters, there is very little proof for anything. There is no proof that evolution is true, there is only evidence that things evolve. There is no proof that God exist, there is only evidence that a divine being created everything. Of course, it is also in the eye of the beholder because what one man may say is evidence that there is a God (for instance, the complex and near statistical impossibility that humans evolved from single cell organisms is something that one person would call evidence that evolution exists, while others would say that's evidence that there must be a divine being orchestrating all of this.) Logically speaking, is it worth the risk to you that Christians are right and you will be in hell for all eternity vs if Christians are wrong and we all lived and died on the same Earth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razer14 View Post
    Proof is a difficult concept for some. For starters, there is very little proof for anything. There is no proof that evolution is true, there is only evidence that things evolve. There is no proof that God exist, there is only evidence that a divine being created everything. Of course, it is also in the eye of the beholder because what one man may say is evidence that there is a God (for instance, the complex and near statistical impossibility that humans evolved from single cell organisms is something that one person would call evidence that evolution exists, while others would say that's evidence that there must be a divine being orchestrating all of this.) Logically speaking, is it worth the risk to you that Christians are right and you will be in hell for all eternity vs if Christians are wrong and we all lived and died on the same Earth?
    I take it you don't understand anything past elementary education.

    1. "there is only evidence that things evolve" Ok..how do you not see that as proof of evolution?

    2. "there is only evidence of divine creation" Oh really......where? Did god leave his signature somewhere? Which god?

    3. I would gladly go to hell if it exist.

    A) Satan isn't any more evil than the god of the bible. Anything satan has done, god has done. As far as death count of innocents who went to hell for it, God reigns #1 there!
    B) I wouldn't want to worship some ego-driven god. At least satan doesn't require worship for hell-entrance.
    C) There is no proof that hell is a bad place nor heaven good. In fact, god has a habit of trying to deny people the one thing that will set them free.
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    But lets be honest, if you have to pull out the "well why not? You'll go to hell otherwise!" argument, you've already lost.
    A) If we follow your religion but not another's, then we risk not going to their heaven.
    B) If your god requires belief in order to be with him in heaven, then he is explicitly telling us to believe in thousand year old text instead of showing himself, which would mean he thinks idiocy is deserving of reward.
    C) The amount of good and innocent people who are going to hell "just because" they don't or can't believe in Jesus kind of proves that your god isn't worth following.


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