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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcenill95 View Post
    Maybe I am misinterpretting this, but I can prove a negative... I can prove that there is NOT a cow in my room right now...
    >Claim there is a cow in your room is unsubstantiated.
    >positive claim.

    Try again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    >Claim there is a cow in your room is unsubstantiated.
    >positive claim.

    Try again.
    rule of double negation, still a negative

    Always ask for confirmation before and after adding me, I am not responsible if you get scammed by my impersonators



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fujiyama View Post
    rule of double negation, still a negative
    Rule of double negative would make it a positive.

    So no, it wouldn't be "still a negative".

    :/ Either way, only positive claims can be disproven.
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    Lol everybody knows that Stewie created the universe by going Limbo and destroying his return pad, causing a huge explosion (Big Bang) that created the earth.
    Who created Stewie you ask?
    The universe did so that Stewie could create the universe.

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    Their is no proof he is not real , also no proof he is real #WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpinkyToon View Post
    Their is no proof he is not real , also no proof he is real #WTF
    So what do we do in this situation?

    We hold belief until sufficient evidence is provided!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    So what do we do in this situation?

    We hold belief until sufficient evidence is provided!
    I would be inclined to say there is sufficient evidence in the "Miracle" stories that make headlines once in a blue moon. But I mean most Atheist's would find some way to make it seem logical or just call these events flat out Bullshit.
    But I digress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathaddict001 View Post
    I would be inclined to say there is sufficient evidence in the "Miracle" stories that make headlines once in a blue moon. But I mean most Atheist's would find some way to make it seem logical or just call these events flat out Bullshit.
    But I digress.
    You have to look at this from an atheist point of view and not be prone to confirmation bias.

    For instance, did you know that there is a religion called Hinduism? Now this religion is actually an atheist greatest tool.

    In Hinduism, there are documented miracles in the thousands. With the same standard of testimony as the bible, if not better in most cases. These Miracles are documented to this day, and do not stop like christianity's two thousand years ago.



    Now surely, most Christians see this as fake. Surely Brahma doesn't exist, surely this isn't the work of the Christian god either since the Hindu god's are always listed. Yet the Hindu's to this day document miracle after miracle and no christian believes it.

    Why? Why do Christians believe in the bible but not the claims of the Hindu? Because of two things:
    -Confirmation bias
    -Indoctrination

    That's what divides each religion. Not proof, not evidence, not the validity/soundness of their arguments. Simple tools that dictators and tyrants have used for a millennium.
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    But out of the millions of miracle claims, not one has provided sufficient evidence for the christians, for the hindus, for the muslims, for any of them.
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    Now we have to get to the fun part. Miracles that aren't miracles.


    There are so many miracles that aren't supernatural. Simple, natural events claimed as miracles.


    A baby saved in a plane crash? Not a miracle.
    Jesus's face on a piece of toast(not even his real face).


    There are so many statistical regularities that are counted as miracles because people remain ignorant. They wan to believe in magic rather than reality.
    Last edited by Empire; 12-14-2014 at 10:59 PM.


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