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    Quote Originally Posted by FlutterShy! View Post
    Its not linear because not everyone can win a Nobel Prize. Thats like having 4 people in which 2 have nobel prizes so 50% win prizes and thats like saying ow If i have 16 people then 8 will win prizes? Dont make sense
    even if the jewish popluation suddenly grew by 1000% and not a single one gets a prize.

    jews would still get on average 200 times more prizes compared to an average muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jew View Post


    that doesnt make any sense.

    24% of nobel prices are given to jews

    if there were 2 times more jews

    there were 2 times more nobel prices given out to them. its a completely linear connection




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    high knowledge of modern science is awarded with the prize.

    we can compare HDI if you want to



    israel beats all the countries with a high muslim population
    You still don't get my point, however I am out of this debate cus I am not good at debating. Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning View Post
    You still don't get my point, however I am out of this debate cus I am not good at debating. Peace
    >are you implying im good at debating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning View Post


    I labeled them as "muslim scientists" as he was saying that jews contributed to the society more than muslims so that was another debate, I didn't disagree with why we shouldn't label them as muslims because it is their beliefs.
    Well Jews do contribute to society more than muslims. Especially in the last hundred years.
    (also Jews are a race, Muslims are not, so it's an odd comparison to begin with).

    Their beliefs are irrelevant to their accomplishment.


    Either way, none of this "Islamic inventors" is relevant to Islam or it's supposed truth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Yes, right. I've gone over this a lot with the Muslim community so I'll repeat what I said in hopes that you listen this time:

    If Islam did not play a role in the inventions, then the person is not an "Islamic inventor", but merely a normal inventor.

    I say this because at the same time I could argue a lot of technology was created by "Zeus followers" or "Hindu practicers".



    The religion of a person should not get the credit for a personal invention.
    But Islam did play a major role, there is a reason why it is called the Islamic Golden age. Without the rich economy, and common language across Africa, Europe, and the Middle East, that Islam created, no inventions would have been made. Any Historian will call you crazy if you said Islam played absolutely no role in those inventions.

    Islam is more than just a religion, it is a way of life and it's teachings cover every aspect in life, one being to search for knowledge. It is an act of worship in Islam to seek knowledge. The Muslims were influenced by the teachings of Islam:

    What Muhammad[pbuh] said About Education/Study :

    The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim. [both male and female]

    If anyone travels on a road in search of knowledge, Allah will cause him to travel on one of the roads of Paradise.

    He who issues forth in search of knowledge is busy in the cause of Allah till he returns from his quest.

    Seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave

    He who leaveth home in search of knowledge, walk in the path of God”

    Four things support the world: the learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the good, and the valor of the brave”

    Ibn Mas`ood, radiallaahu `anhu, said:
    “True knowledge is not measured in relationship to how much you memorize and then narrate, but rather,true knowledge is an expression of piety [protecting oneself from what Allaah prohibited and acting upon what He mandated]. “Also, “Study and act upon what you learn.”
    [Related by Abu Na`eem]

    “All humans are dead except those who have knowledge;and all those who have knowledge are asleep, except those who do good deeds;and those who do good deeds are deceived, except those who are sincere;and those who are sincere are always in a state of worry.”
    Imam Shafi’i (rahimullah)

    “There is no worse calamity for knowledge and its people than when outsiders intrude. They are ignorant, but presume to know. They cause trouble yet think that they are helping.”
    Imam Ibn Hazm Rahimahullah

    Seek (beneficial) knowledge,because seeking it for the sake of Allaah is a worship. And knowing it makes you more God-fearing; and searching for it is jihad,teaching it to those who do not know is charity,reviewing and learning it more is like tasbeeh.Through knowledge Allaah will be known and worshiped.”
    -Ibn Taymiyyah

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    -Shaykh Sa’di

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    The oldest university according to UNESCO and Guinness world records in Morocco was founded by a muslim woman, Fatima al-Fihri in 859. A thousand years before any girl could get an education in the UK.
    Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    is an act of worship in Islam to seek knowledge
    riiiiiiiiiiiiight

    i can see that today. seek knowledge? from where - the quran? give me a break

    the religion prohibits doubting or questioning anything written inside the quran - how is that pro seeking knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    But Islam did play a major role, there is a reason why it is called the Islamic Golden age. Without the rich economy, and common language across Africa, Europe, and the Middle East, that Islam created, no inventions would have been made. Any Historian will call you crazy if you said Islam played absolutely no role in those inventions..
    >Islam created common language / rich economy.

    No. It didn't.


    These also aren't part of the invention either. How are you even linking these inventions to Islam? They have nothing to do with the religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    Islam is more than just a religion
    It's the same as every other religion, sorry. This is called "special pleading".

    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    The oldest university according to UNESCO and Guinness world records in Morocco was founded by a muslim woman, Fatima al-Fihri in 859. A thousand years before any girl could get an education in the UK.
    Do you even know the history of the UK?

    How uneducated are you Robin? What grade level am I talking about here?

    Have you even gone to highschool?

    This isn't even something that's hard to research. Literally type in "Uk was founded in"!!



    Fucking. Retard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    Without the rich economy, and common language across Africa, Europe, and the Middle East, that Islam created, no inventions would have been made.
    So you intend to tell me that something from the Middle Ages created rich culture, when the Akkadian dynasty prospered and conquered much of Mesopotamia, and became the world's first known Ancient Empire?

    I could also tell you that if Mesopotamia had not been conquered, then the horse chariot that was famous in Roman times would never have been created. I could also tell you that had cuneiform not been created, that Mesopotamia and much of the middle-east would not know how to write in ancient times.

    kay. That's just ignorant. Once again, the Islam supporters strike MPGH with their fallacies.
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