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    Why do the Islamophobes blame Islam and not the extremist "Muslims?"

    Islam only permits fighting in self defense: http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=841011

    But for the sake of the argument lets just say Islam does teach to kill all non-muslims for no reason. Even if it does teach that, if a person goes and kills someone, the person is obviously still to blame not what he read.

    It is like someone committing a murder and then saying it wasn't my fault because I was told to do it in a book. Do you think the judge in court will say, "that's fine then you are not guilty and it was the books fault?"

    Use your brain guys.
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    Islamaphobia would be people who are afraid or who have an irrational fear of Islam.

    You are talking about people who dislike Islam.

    It's weird that only Muslims do this, as usually Christians are not as desperate to label anyone who dislikes there religion as having a phobia of it.


    The weirder part is that phobias are defined as having an irrational fear, these fears are rationalized.

    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    the person is obviously still to blame not what he read.
    You are correct


    This is all fine and dandy, but irrelevant to the subject of Islam itself.




    Also: Muhammad didn't fight his war in self-defense, he clearly attacked first and led his war just like every other warlord by pillaging/looting nearby cities.
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    Edit: I forgot I had already destroyed you by the first post in that thread you linked. Ha! my work here is done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Islamaphobia would be people who are afraid or who have an irrational fear of Islam.

    You are talking about people who dislike Islam.

    It's weird that only Muslims do this, as usually Christians are not as desperate to label anyone who dislikes there religion as having a phobia of it.


    The weirder part is that phobias are defined as having an irrational fear, these fears are rationalized.


    You are correct


    This is all fine and dandy, but irrelevant to the subject of Islam itself.




    Also: Muhammad didn't fight his war in self-defense, he clearly attacked first and led his war just like every other warlord by pillaging/looting nearby cities.
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    Edit: I forgot I had already destroyed you by the first post in that thread you linked. Ha! my work here is done!
    A phobia doesn't mean just being fearful of something it also means being hateful. It is irrational to fear Islam, Islam is just teachings in books. How can writing hurt you to be afraid of it? It isn't irrational to be fearful of extremists though.
    Last edited by robinvanpersie; 09-02-2015 at 03:24 PM.
    Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.

    Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
    This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
    Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
    And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
    Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
    Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    A phobia doesn't mean just being fearful of something it also means being hateful. It is irrational to fear Islam, Islam is just teachings in books. How can writing hurt you to be afraid of it? It isn't irrational to be fearful of extremists though.
    A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, usually defined as a persistent fear of an object or situation in which the sufferer commits to great lengths in avoiding, typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational.

    If the fear is rationalized even if the rationale is wrong it is not a phobia. Being hateful is not being phobic. Learn the difference.


    You're done here. /thread.
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