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    Smile Live evidence of the existence of God #1

    Hi,


    Now i don't know if God say this in the bible, but he did say the following in the Qura'an

    "He create the skies and the earth... and he provide the sun and the moon"

    sun is what we r going 2 talk about.

    ==========

    now atheist say that everything happens by the big-bang and everything was made by coincidence.


    stars, galaxies, sun, moon, planets, they say it was formed by the big-bang or at least that is what i've heard.


    now how long is the space?

    answer: billions of light years, far far away.

    sun, it gives us the light and the energy that we need,


    it is 93000000 million mile away\ 8 light minutes.


    Scientists says that if the sun get closer for 1centemeter


    we will burn and died, and if the sun was a little far away we would be die freezing, in both cases we r going 2 die anyway.


    ========================


    now here is my main point


    why, and why the sun exactly 8 light minutes from the earth?

    the space is so so deep and huge, why the sun wouldn't be far far away from earth?

    now do u think the position of the sun was made by
    coincidence?

    thank u very much.
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    I think that SUN position was made by coincidence....Just EARTH place in the universe is perfect....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StRaXD View Post
    I think that SUN position was made by coincidence....Just EARTH place in the universe is perfect....
    Truth is, God has created the sun and provide it 4 us,

    if sun close 1 centemeter "and that is a very very small distance" we gonna die
    just think about it 4 a second.

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    A. I agree in the existence of god.
    B. Paroxysm is here and going to argue about it
    C. One could argue life is sustained by the nature of the sun
    and the earth and sun allowed evolution from the existence of nothing

    (not that I agree with C., just pointing it out)


     


     


     



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    Quote Originally Posted by demo-dash View Post
    Hi,


    Now i don't know if God say this in the bible, but he did say the following in the Qura'an

    "He create the skies and the earth... and he provide the sun and the moon"

    sun is what we r going 2 talk about.

    ==========

    now atheist say that everything happens by the big-bang and everything was made by coincidence.


    stars, galaxies, sun, moon, planets, they say it was formed by the big-bang or at least that is what i've heard.


    now how long is the space?

    answer: billions of light years, far far away.

    sun, it gives us the light and the energy that we need,


    it is 93000000 million mile away\ 8 light minutes.


    Scientists says that if the sun get closer for 1centemeter


    we will burn and died, and if the sun was a little far away we would be die freezing, in both cases we r going 2 die anyway.


    ========================


    now here is my main point


    why, and why the sun exactly 8 light years from the earth?

    the space is so so deep and huge, why the sun wouldn't be far far away from earth?

    now do u think the position of the sun was made by
    coincidence?

    thank u very much.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    HAHA

    ha...

    Sigh...

    At first it was funny, now it's just sad that anyone can be as stupid as you.

    Before I go on with a long explanation of your inane argument, here's a picture of the earths orbit:



    Extrapolate what you wish.

    The distance between the earth and the sun changes by 4800000 KM every 6 months. That's 4,800,000,000 cm. Feel like a fucking idiot, because you are.


    "why the sun exactly 8 light years from the earth?"
    It isn't. It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth, not 8 years. You're off by a factor of 525948.

    I'd keep talking about all the stupid things you've said but I feel like I'd be beating a dead horse.


    Quote Originally Posted by NextGen1 View Post
    A. I agree in the existence of god.
    B. Paroxysm is here and going to argue about it
    C. One could argue life is sustained by the nature of the sun
    and the earth and sun allowed evolution from the existence of nothing

    (not that I agree with C., just pointing it out)
    You know me all too well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA

    HAHA

    ha...

    Sigh...

    At first it was funny, now it's just sad that anyone can be as stupid as you.

    Before I go on with a long explanation of your inane argument, here's a picture of the earths orbit:



    Extrapolate what you wish.

    The distance between the earth and the sun changes by 4800000 KM every 6 months. That's 4,800,000,000 cm. Feel like a fucking idiot, because you are.


    "why the sun exactly 8 light years from the earth?"
    It isn't. It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth, not 8 years. You're off by a factor of 525948.

    I'd keep talking about all the stupid things you've said but I feel like I'd be beating a dead horse.




    You know me all too well
    Ok Paroxysm,

    you may be right about that sintific infromation.
    yes it is 8 minutes and not 8 years so i have mistakes, me my self i am not a good english speaker i have hard time to connect sentences btween eatch other but im trying my best,

    you missed my main question

    now do u think the position of the sun was made by coincidence?
    i would like u 2 answer that

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo-dash View Post
    I would like u 2 answer that
    WTF do you mean by the position of the sun?

    Here let's try to nip this in the butt:

    Lowest Estimated # of stars in the universe:
    3 x 10^22

    Let's assume only 1/100 of those suns have planets, we now have:
    3 x 10^20 stars in the universe with planets.

    Let's assume only 1/10000 of those suns have a planet in the habitable zone:
    3 x 10^16 planets capable of supporting our form of life.

    Now let's assume abiogenesis occurred only on 1/10000 of those planets we have:
    3 x 10^12 planets in the habitable zone with life

    Now let's assume that only on 1/1000 of these planets, life forms continued to evolve to a point where they become the dominant species:
    3,000,000,000 planets with a species that are capable of sustained survival.

    Here's something you should take away from this:
    No matter how unlikely a situation is, with continued trials and an unfathomable long period of time, even the most unlikely of events are bound to occur.

    ~Paroxysm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    WTF do you mean by the position of the sun?

    Here let's try to nip this in the butt:

    Lowest Estimated # of stars in the universe:
    3 x 10^21

    Let's assume only 1/100 of those suns have planets, we now have:
    3 x 10^20 stars in the universe with planets.

    Let's assume only 1/10000 of those suns have a planet in the habitable zone:
    3 x 10^17 planets capable of supporting our form of life.

    Now let's assume abiogenesis occurred only on 1/10000 of those planets we have:
    3 x 10^12 planets in the habitable with life

    Now let's assume that only on 1/1000 of these planets, life forms continued to evolve to a point where they become the dominant species:
    3,000,000,000 planets with a species that are capable of sustained survival.

    Here's something you should take away from this:
    No matter how unlikely a situation is, with continued trials and an unfathomable long period of time, even the most unlikely of events are bound to occur.

    ~Aleks
    position = location u fucking idiot
    I didn't understand any shit from what u written
    next time write a math book and we shall consider that

    btw, u atheist ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo-dash View Post
    position = location u fucking idiot
    I didn't understand any shit from what u written
    next time write a math book and we shall consider that

    btw, u atheist ?
    If you use that definition of position, your question makes no sense. The suns position is no coincidence, it goes around with the rest of the galaxy...
    And yes I'm an atheist. Is the earths position relative to the sun a coincidence? Depends how you look at that question but yes, it is a coincidence, a coincidence that we've established has occurred 3 x 10^17 times. I hate having to explain scientific notation but
    3 x 10^17 means: 300,000,000,000,000,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    If you use that definition of position, your question makes no sense. The suns position is no coincidence, it goes around with the rest of the galaxy...
    And yes I'm an atheist. Is the earths position relative to the sun a coincidence? Depends how you look at that question but yes, it is a coincidence, a coincidence that we've established has occurred 3 x 10^17 times. I hate having to explain scientific notation but
    3 x 10^17 means: 300,000,000,000,000,000.
    That is why I said I'm bad in English, I try my best to make the Q understandable,

    u atheist? good, stay tuned for #2 I'll blow u r mind, the best is yet to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo-dash View Post
    That is why I said I'm bad in English, I try my best to make the Q understandable,

    u atheist? good, stay tuned for #2 I'll blow u r mind, the best is yet to come
    Considering your luck thus far and the number of mistakes you made in your original post, I'm holding my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Considering your luck thus far and the number of mistakes you made in your original post, I'm holding my breath.






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    Quote Originally Posted by demo-dash View Post






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    Before you continue, I need you to concede that your original claims were falsified. I'm not going to get into an argument where you just scream things and when I refute something you just move on like nothing happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Before you continue, I need you to concede that your original claims were falsified. I'm not going to get into an argument where you just scream things and when I refute something you just move on like nothing happened.
    to tell the truth, the information in my 1st post i obtain it quickly from google, i didn't even know if it was right or wrong...

    i just put it together to reach my main point which is the location of the sun, witch it is a sighn for the existence of God whether u believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demo-dash View Post
    to tell the truth, the information in my 1st post i obtain it quickly from google, i didn't even know if it was right or wrong...

    i just put it together to reach my main point which is the location of the sun, witch it is a sighn for the existence of God whether u believe it or not.
    You're trying to convince me that there is a God, I've been listening and all I've heard were factual inaccuracies. The only thing you've proven is that you are dishonest, you've made it very clear that you don't care about truth, you only care about convincing others and you obviously have no issue with regurgitating false information as long as they support your cause. Next time either present information in an intellectually honest manner or don't present them at all.
    Last edited by Paroxysm; 03-24-2010 at 07:43 PM.
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