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    Smile Quran + science :)

    Birth:

    The embryonic development of a child is explained before science had ever analyzed these things.

    23:14 Then We created the seed into an embryo, then we created the embryo into a fetus, then we created the fetus into bone, then We covered the bone with flesh, then We brought forth a new creation. So glory be to God, the best of creators.

    Numeric coding:

    Even before the actual "code" was found, people realized there were many numerical coincidences in the Quran. For instance:

    * The word "month" (shahr) occurs 12 times.
    * The word "day" (yawm) occurs 365 times.
    * The word "days" (eyyam, yawmeyn) occurs 30 times.
    * The words "Satan" (shaytan) & "angel" (malak) each occur 88 times.
    * The words "this world" (dunya) and "hereafter" (ahirah) each occur 115 times.

    Universe/earth:

    I'll talk about the scientific evidence first. The Quran talks about some of these proofs in allegorical terms, because the language was not developed enough to say them in truly scientific terms. For instance, the universe is claimed to be continually expanding:

    51:47 We constructed the universe with might, and We are expanding it.

    The earth's rotation is explained by:

    [27:88] when you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving, like the clouds. Such is the manufacture of GOD, who perfected everything. He is fully Cognizant of everything you do.

    Furthermore, the Big Bang is talked about in the Quran, where everything came from a SINGULARITY:

    21:30 did those who reject not see that the heavens and the earth were one mass and we tore them apart? That We made from the water everything that lives. Will they not acknowledge?

    Just did some research on Islam and science.

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    Wow, that's cool.

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    yeah.don't forget that most of it was of the Ancient Greeks though,implemented in Quran.
    what does this have this have to do with debate section anyway?:P

    PS: and what people consider Satan/Devil's form,is actually the Greek God Panas,god of Orgies and wine.lol
    Last edited by Casavir; 09-26-2010 at 02:23 PM.
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    whoever made this thread... you just got owned by Casavir...
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    ...Hmm so the Greek knew about the rotation of the earth?

    the greek knew about birth?
    the greek knew about the number of days in a years? and days in a month?... :L

    Proof please

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    about birth no,about rotation of the earth only 1000 years before you
    and Greeks used Moonturns to count months,and moonturns to count years,which later(12centuries,much more to become international) changed due to arabs by two days
    Also,we had numbers a millenia before you,only in a different type of them

    as for the Birth thing,if that's actually described in Quran,just wow!
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    Ὦ ξεῖν', ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι.

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    In Holy Quraan, the word Al-Bahar(Sea) appears 32 times and Al-Bar(Land) appears 13 times.

    If we add up the total words of both "sea" and "land" we get 45. Now if we do a simple calculation:



    32/45 X 100% = 71.11111111%
    13/45 X 100% = 28.88888888%



    Above is what we know today, the percentages of Water (Sea) and Land in the world. Yet another miracle in the Quraan.


    The Miracles of the Quran will never end. There will never be a time where mankind can fully take in the knowledge that is in this holy book. It is a miracle to all mankind, the word of God (The Almighty Allah). There is no value that one can set to the words of the creator. It is a treasure of which guides those that want to succeed in this life and the hereafter.


    After knowing all this, I can't believe atheists still exist !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visiblegaming View Post
    Birth:

    The embryonic development of a child is explained before science had ever analyzed these things.

    23:14 Then We created the seed into an embryo, then we created the embryo into a fetus, then we created the fetus into bone, then We covered the bone with flesh, then We brought forth a new creation. So glory be to God, the best of creators.

    Numeric coding:

    Even before the actual "code" was found, people realized there were many numerical coincidences in the Quran. For instance:

    * The word "month" (shahr) occurs 12 times.
    * The word "day" (yawm) occurs 365 times.
    * The word "days" (eyyam, yawmeyn) occurs 30 times.
    * The words "Satan" (shaytan) & "angel" (malak) each occur 88 times.
    * The words "this world" (dunya) and "hereafter" (ahirah) each occur 115 times.

    Universe/earth:

    I'll talk about the scientific evidence first. The Quran talks about some of these proofs in allegorical terms, because the language was not developed enough to say them in truly scientific terms. For instance, the universe is claimed to be continually expanding:

    51:47 We constructed the universe with might, and We are expanding it.

    The earth's rotation is explained by:

    [27:88] when you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving, like the clouds. Such is the manufacture of GOD, who perfected everything. He is fully Cognizant of everything you do.

    Furthermore, the Big Bang is talked about in the Quran, where everything came from a SINGULARITY:

    21:30 did those who reject not see that the heavens and the earth were one mass and we tore them apart? That We made from the water everything that lives. Will they not acknowledge?

    Just did some research on Islam and science.

    Please DO NOT FLAME! THIS IS NOT A HATE POST

    Luke(13:16) Jesus told Peter that “Satan has received permission to test all of you.”

    John records Jesus describing the Devil as “the prince of this world” (12:31, 14:30). Jesus said, “You are the children of your father, the Devil, and you want to follow your father’s desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him, because he is a liar and the father of all lies.” (John 8: 44)


    The writers of the New Testament letters also had a great respect for the Devil. Paul wrote in 2nd Corinthians to “keep Satan from getting the upper hand over us” (2Cor. 2:11), “their minds have been kept in the dark by the evil god of this world.” (2Cor.4: 4), “Even Satan can disguise himself to look like an angel of light.” (2Cor.11: 14)

    According to the whole Bible, there is an adversary called Satan. His presence is consistently mentioned from Genesis to Revelation. He tries to upset God’s plans but he seems to be tethered and can only go as far as God allows. Satan has the power to test us and tempt us but we have the option to resist. (See James 4: 7)

    Clearly Satan was given dominion over the spiritual realm between Heaven,
    which is the earth and hell. The apostles and Jesus himself describe Satan as a highly intelligent deceiver. His main objective is to lead people away from God, and his ultimate plan which is to walk in fellowship with the Royal family of God and his son Jesus Christ.

    The Qur'an explaining in great detail of our origins proves to me,
    that in fact this knowledge did not come from man.
    This knowledge also didn't come from God either.
    It was implemented by Satan, for the deceiver knows that this type of scientific proof would lead people away from the one and only God.
    The same God that sent his only son to the earth to spread his message of love for his children.
    People relate far more with logical truths opposed to the spiritual realm.
    The Devil knows this and cleverly used these scientific explanations
    as a tactic to lure people from God.

    Jesus warned of false prophets and false doctrines several centuries before the Qur'an was even established.
    Even if one of these false doctrines and false prophets claims to be good,
    if they are not in accordance with the word of God, and do not believe in the Son of man, Christ our lord, than they are not of God, but against God.

    The Lord Jesus Christ warned His followers, "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves (Matt. 7:15).

    As believer in God, we know that Science will be useless in Heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Luke(13:16)
    His main objective is to lead people away from God, and his ultimate plan which is to walk in fellowship with the Royal family of God and his son Jesus Christ.
    Umm...What makes you think God has a son ? Did Jesus himself said he is the son of God or what ?? I am interested to know !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xscapism View Post


    Umm...What makes you think God has a son ? Did Jesus himself said he is the son of God or what ?? I am interested to know !!!!

    Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”
    Facepalm. You're referencing edited bible !!
    Jesus is not in anyway God's son !!! ALLAH IS ONE !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xscapism View Post


    Facepalm. You're referencing edited bible !!
    Jesus is not in anyway God's son !!! ALLAH IS ONE !!!
    You are entitled do believe whatever you like.
    As am I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You are entitled do believe whatever you like.
    As am I.
    True, but I really wanted to know why people have such beliefs !!

    +

    Majority of the christians don't even know how it all started !!!

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    NEW FACT!


    66:12 - quran
    Tells us there is 7 layers of heaven..

    There are 7 layers of the earth.
    There are 7 layers in the solar system.

    GF


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