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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    When Jesus spoke these words in John it was His last ministerial time with His disciples prior to His death, crucifixion, and resurrection. Jesus is being very intimate with them. Understand then, when he speaks to them He is including them – these very disciples, specifically. These are the men He knew best and loved; they were His friends.

    John 14:16 — And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth.

    The Comforter will be with these disciples forever. Jesus promised the Comforter would be with these disciples forever. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he wasn't born until over 500 years later - following the deaths of these disciples. He was born around 570 and died around 632 AD.




    The unholy trinity being Satan, the anti-christ, and the false prophet
    were really given no specific order in when they would make their appearance,
    according to Revelations.
    These diciples for ever could have been about when he died. he live amongst them in paradise.

    Not in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwtog View Post
    But if the Holy Spirit can only be sent if Jesus pbuh will depart, how can he be sent to be with them forever if he was already there?
    Great question Jw.

    John 14:16 — And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth.

    The Comforter will be with these disciples forever. Jesus promised the Comforter would be with these disciples forever. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he wasn't born until over 500 years later - following the deaths of these disciples. He was born around 570 and died around 632 AD.

    Jesus said he would ask the father,so this means God himself sends down the Holy spirit into the disciples after Christ has gone home to God the father.

    John 14:17 — But you know him for he lives with you and will be in you.

    The Comforter lives with the disciples already now and will later be 'in' them. The Holy Spirit came to the disciples and indwelt them. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because first he wasn't around at the time when Jesus was speaking to his disciples nor second could he ever be in any of the disciples. The Greek word is 'en', and it means 'right inside'. Jesus is saying that the Comforter will be 'right inside' of the disciples.

    So the answer to your question is that because Jesus was with the Disciples,
    there was no need to give them the comforter while he traveled and ministered with them.
    His divine teachings, and message of the Father and his love was more than enough comfort.
    Quote Originally Posted by Visiblegaming View Post
    These diciples for ever could have been about when he died. he live amongst them in paradise.

    Not in life.

    I kind of lost you on this one dude.

    There would be no need to be given the gift of the Holy spirit in Heaven,
    because we can probably assume that when in Heaven,
    we are Holy spirits.
    Last edited by Ethereal; 11-13-2010 at 08:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visiblegaming View Post
    Not hard? ok go get one, learn the bible of by heart, oops i mean the bible'S. and the Quran and torah.
    They don't require any math or sciences, and to be honest, they just say "hey guys, i learned about a religion!"

    Because money wise, those degree's are a waste of time, unless you plan on being hypocritical.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    They don't require any math or sciences, and to be honest, they just say "hey guys, i learned about a religion!"

    Because money wise, those degree's are a waste of time, unless you plan on being hypocritical.
    Ok whatever troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visiblegaming View Post
    Ok whatever troll
    Think about it, how do you make money with that degree?

    You sell books.

    Well if all that money goes to you, as an author i can see that. But as a follower of a religion, and not giving it to the poor, its hypocritical.


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    Degree in theology is even more useless than an English major.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Degree in theology is even more useless than an English major.
    Gee..thanks for the optimism buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Gee..thanks for the optimism buddy.
    Troof hurts. Get a real degree, not a degree in Unicorn History.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Troof hurts. Get a real degree, not a degree in Unicorn History.
    Unicorn history that you will whiteness once you die bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Troof hurts. Get a real degree, not a degree in Unicorn History.
    I don't insult you or your beliefs.
    I'd appreciate if you would pay me the same respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    Degree in theology is even more useless than an English major.
    Might as well get an art degree lulz.
    -oh wait, touchy subject lol


    Might as well get a psychology.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I don't insult you or your beliefs.
    I'd appreciate if you would pay me the same respect.
    I respect people, not beliefs.




    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Might as well get an art degree lulz.
    -oh wait, touchy subject lol


    Might as well get a psychology.
    Real men studying engineering
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    I respect people, not beliefs.





    If this was true,
    than you would respect the fact that some people have Beliefs.
    Mocking their faith is disrespectful.
    I have never once condemned you for being Atheist, unlike some people here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    If this was true,
    than you would respect the fact that some people have Beliefs.
    Mocking their faith is disrespectful.
    I have never once condemned you for being Atheist, unlike some people here.
    I don't reserve criticism solely for people that criticize me. I would just as willingly point out flaws in an atheists opinions as I would a Christians.
    "We swallow greedily any lie that flatters us, but we sip only little by little at a truth we find bitter." ~ Denis Diderot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paroxysm View Post
    I don't reserve criticism solely for people that criticize me. I would just as willingly point out flaws in an atheists opinions as I would a Christians.
    Not exactly sure what you were criticizing in that statement made,
    but whatever.Internets.

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