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    Illuminati futility

    Ok for the sake of this thread, the illuminati exist, everything is true. So please, this thread is not about you guys proving they exist. I do no disagree with you on any levels. THIS ISN'T ABOUT PROVING THEY EXIST.
    ^^READ THIS BEFORE POSTING^^


    So the illuminati, its a secret organization with vast power, and controls things from the shadows. So this syndicate, has a huge amount of power, influence, and money. They basically run the world from the shadows.
    ^this is what they are^


    Ok so these guys, basically cause problems for the sake of gaining more power. This is the part where i cite a whole bunch of wars like the Iraq War, and show how they manipulate actions for their benefit.
    (note, you guys already know this part, so i didn't think it neccesary to cit sources, also this thread is saying that they exist already on the first sentence).
    ^This is what they do^
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    Ok so the illuminati exist, therefore the next step is to stop them.

    Ok so here are the problems you will face in stopping them.

    Law: Well first off you can't go and arrest them. If they are anywhere near as powerful as you say they are, charging them with crimes isn't an option. You can take any celebrities as an example, they get off of crimes so easily its just laughable. Now take people who are actually in power, have lots more money, and control the government. Good luck. Not to mention, they can just move to another country. On the very, very off chance that you get them convicted, its pointless in the end because they will either not make it to jail, or just fake the books.
    -Result: Futile.

    Ok, so law is out. Going outside the law will lead you with two options.
    (crime and replication)

    Crime: Well the only way to truly take care of a person of such vast power, is to kill them. Sorry, i really wish this could sound better, but thats really the only option with crime. But thats another problem, unless your akumetsu, it won't work. You first have to even try to kill them. Not to be rude, but trying to off someone with such power/influence is a very, very stupid idea. Security, hit-squads, information. Its all on the Illuminati's side by far.
    Result: Futile

    Replication: Well one method is to take the same idea, make a super-secret organization, and take the other one out. This won't work on many levels, but the main problem with it is that it will just end up like the illuminati. No matter who starts it, if you have that much power amassed, corruption is bound to happen, sooner or later. Not to mention it would just be hypocritical.
    Result: Futile
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    Lets take a step back and look at crime in a different view.

    Take the triads, we know they exist, we know they do bad things, we even know who does them, hell we know where they are.

    But we do nothing. You see the example isn't to prove how we should do something, the triad example is to show that we don't do anything.

    Yet even if the illuminati were known, which they currently are not in the mass media/population, what are we possibly going to do? We know the triads, gangs, and any form of organized crime exist, but we don't stop it outright.
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    So let me sum this up as well as I can.

    The illuminati are a group of people that are unstoppable. They will always exist, maybe under a different name, but the fact is that there will always, always be someone operating things behind the shadows.

    If you blame them, nothing will happen, if you prove their existence, nothing will happen.

    Your resistance is futile.


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    Yup, I'm convinced.
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    So ... what's to debate? And what has this got to do with "Islam vs the Western world"?

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    THIS IS SPA...EMPIRE!
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    whoever made this thread... you just got owned by Casavir...
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    Wrong section smart kid.

    But yeah..in theory there really isn't much that can be done at the moment.
    I think it is important to at least know the truth about their endeavors though.
    Not to get people in a panic, but to open them up to the fact that even their spirtulaity is being lead into darkness. All these Christians, and Muslims think that Christ is coming back to make things right, unfortunetly this will never happen. It breaks my heart because I have been a Christian for a long time, now I have to find out the truth about spirituality and this isn't going to be an easy road. It may involve psychotropic drugs.

    These global mafioso expect retaliation from the Christians and Muslims.
    I think it would be a pretty big blow to them if there was no revolt.
    That everyone just went along with their plans peacefully.
    I know this sounds crazy, but Arron Russo was a Hollywood Producer,
    and produced a fewbig bands in the 70's. Later in his career he focused on politics,
    mainly the truth movement, making 2 documentaries that are renowned within the movement. One was "Mad as Hell", the other was "Freedom to Fascism"
    Arron went on record shortly before he died, about how he became friends with Nick Rockefeller. Nick had told him a great deal about things that were going to happen in the future, one of them was that there was a plan to lower population by 50%.
    Now, I'm not sure how true all of this is,
    But I can't see why Arron would toss his career down the shitter,
    if all of his research and certain conversations with people were all BS.
    Meh..maybe the peaceful approach isnt even a good idea..
    they would just provoke situations as they always have.

    Eitherway.. I don't really care.
    I just want to understand more about where we actually came from.

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    well atleast you finally believe they exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicknature View Post
    well atleast you finally believe they exist.
    Well, you can go to the library and find plenty of books on them..
    Adam Weishaupt was their founder.

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    So there really is nothing to debate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeus View Post
    So there really is nothing to debate?
    Nope.He just stated the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeus View Post
    So there really is nothing to debate?
    Nope, not really.
    Empire is correct about this.
    The only thing that would stop their plans is if the majority of the world stopped their everyday repetative cycle of life, quit their jobs,
    and took to the woods.

    Obviously they need us more than we need them..
    They just don't need all of us..
    as in an abundance of people with lack of education, or people that can't help them in anyway.
    Their infrastructure is global banking,
    but currency would be useless if they had no pawns to buy,
    They need contractors, masons, carpenters, doctors, physicists, cops, firemen..without all of the above, what they plan on acheieving would be null.

    Imagine if everyone just said: "Fuck it..I quit"
    They would literally be left alone in the world,
    they would have to start their own empire,
    and repopulate.

    Of course no one is going to quit anything.
    interesting thought none the less.

    Alex Jones says: "We're winning..we're defeating them by spreading the truth."

    These types of comments just solidify the fact that he is enjoying the money that he gets from his cd and book sales, because we are not winning. This is misinformation, and keeps people hopeful.
    If Alex didn't give this type of hope to people, he would run out of income.
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    Ok ethereal, your not getting the point.

    Stop talking about them in other threads.

    Proving they exist isn't going to get you anywhere, this isn't religion, its reality.

    -.- you do realize how futile any resistance is right/??


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    @Ethereal: What's wrong with them being in control? Aristocratic democracy is .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Ok ethereal, your not getting the point.

    Stop talking about them in other threads.

    Proving they exist isn't going to get you anywhere, this isn't religion, its reality.

    -.- you do realize how futile any resistance is right/??
    How about, don't tell me what to talk about.
    Stop acting like you run this place kid..seriously.
    Anything you don't agree with, you feel the need to belittle people.
    People have the right to know the premise of their actual reality.
    You don't understand that though because you're happy with it.
    Maybe our generation won't get it done,
    but at least we can start the renaissance by informing people.
    You keep saying "resistance is futile" sounding like some kind of Cyborg boss from a video game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coeus View Post
    @Ethereal: What's wrong with them being in control? Aristocratic democracy is .
    When the "Aristocrats" are into ritual burnt offerings like the Holocaust, 911, Oklahoma city bombings, Waco, burning people at the stake, totrture, spreading biologic disease, using organized religion as a covet tool of control, provoking wars, allowing drug trafficing (which can easily be stopped) Than..yeah I would pretty much say that is whats wrong with it bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeus View Post
    @Ethereal: What's wrong with them being in control? Aristocratic democracy is .
    Aristocratic democracy never worked,never will.
    Δημοκρατία των Αρίστων(most educated and pure in heart,not necessarily rich,the meaning changed),maybe.but it has never happened before
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casavir View Post
    Aristocratic democracy never worked,never will.
    Δημοκρατία των Αρίστων(most educated and pure in heart,not necessarily rich,the meaning changed),maybe.but it has never happened before
    Well that's what they're doing now? They're the rich, all-mighty controlling everything? Guess they copied ... *ehm* ... ancient Greeks?

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