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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    :/

    You are a hypocrite though, you keep saying your a muslim, but i don't know any muslim who wishes people to go to hell.

    -.- public prayer however many times a day only degrades prayer.

    Its the same with the pledge of allegiance in american schools. Doing it every day in public just makes it a routine and fake.
    Public prayer degrades prayer due to intention, but u don't have the faith us Muslims have, we can pray in a rave, and still consintrate on Allah and blank everything around them out.

    Pledge and pra'in is not equal. 1is to God. the other to the president. or w.e

    Quote Originally Posted by CaT- View Post
    God gave us the bible.
    Which bible?

    Looks to me theres around 100 versions.
    Pick one.

    List of English Bible translations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Last edited by iRateIslam; 12-16-2010 at 11:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRateIslam View Post
    Public prayer degrades prayer due to intention, but u don't have the faith us Muslims have, we can pray in a rave, and still consintrate on Allah and blank everything around them out.

    Pledge and pra'in is not equal. 1is to God. the other to the president. or w.e



    Which bible?

    Looks to me theres around 100 versions.
    Pick one.

    List of English Bible translations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Lol'ed haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by @osma8 View Post
    Lol'ed haha
    ur icon makes me laugh Lool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney Franklin View Post
    if it wasn't created by man it wouldn't have been written on man made papyrus and written with man made ink
    /nuff said
    Elephants use man made paint to paint on man made paper.

    Your argument is invalid. Come back once you obtain real logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRateIslam View Post
    Back from work, and i LoL'ed at this.

    First i start with, nice copy and paste ;]

    1] The early Muslims believe this is the reason the darkness came? dumbass, So no Muslim saw the sun set in the dessert?
    The quran is over 50percent metaphor thus, "sun setting into the water"
    =


    2]What do catholics idolise? Sit Down son.



    3] The so person to deliver the quran was the prophet gabrial pbuh, In islam we do Not believe in 3God like christians.

    Allah is 1 and not associated with Jesus or the spirit. the spirit was Prophet gabriel PBUH.

    4] Stop copieng and pasting PLEASE.

    Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days
    And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

    He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,
    and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things
    to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days
    in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).


    Two days for the earth and two days for the mountains, nourishment ect. both = 4. thus take the two off the "8" u dumbass thought, and make it 6.

    whats 2+2=? if u think its 6 ur a dumbass.
    2+2 = 4 + 2 = 6

    5]
    41:30 Lo! those who say: Our Lord is Allah, and afterward are upright, the angels descend upon them, saying: Fear not nor grieve, but hear good tidings of the paradise which ye are promised.

    41:31 We are your protecting friends in the life of the world and in the Hereafter. There ye will have (all) that your souls desire, and there ye will have (all) for which ye pray.

    41:32 A gift of welcome from One Forgiving, Merciful.


    This isn't talking about Allah, u daft fool. this is talking about the Good people on earth who shall see paradise.

    6] O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end. S. 4:59

    Meaning: Refer to Allah's Quran, and refer to the hadith of the prophet Mohammed.

    Not seek help from the prophet. common sense son.

    ---


    U have more? more what? self embarressment. bring it son.
    I like how you try to weasel your way out of every little point made.

    That is the sun setting behind the Ocean.
    Not into a murky pool of water as stated in the Qur'ran.

    Lol Catholics..I've stated before that they are a corrupt religion,
    There are Christians and Catholics. I stated CHRISTIANS don't idolize Mary.

    Also, you removed 2 paragraphs from the creation section I posted.
    That's where you come up with 6. Nice move snake boy.

    Ah and your last argument? HAHAHA
    Are you kidding me? It specifically states that Allah is the ONLY protector.
    I showed you the verses. So now your argument is what?
    Oh that's right you don't have one.


    Lastly I'd like to say this.

    So Muslims believe in the Virgin birth of Christ.
    Funny because this is in the Bible as well.
    But..wait..don't Muslims say the Bible is corrupted?
    So how is it that they believe in the Virgin birth as written in the BIBLE?
    Let me guess..you guys just pick and choose the corrupt parts.
    Gimme a break..

    Also..so Muslims believe that Christ was just a man serving God.
    Really? Do you know anyone else in history born from a virgin?
    Anyone in history that performed approximately 40 miracles?
    How can you even logically try to comprehend that Christ was just a man?
    How can you Hold Muhammad in such high regard, yet there is no teachings of Christ in the Qur'ran, but you all love Jesus too? Lies.

    Jesus healed a blind man.
    Muhammad turned one away from him.

    and that's is your holy prophet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRateIslam View Post
    Public prayer degrades prayer due to intention, but u don't have the faith us Muslims have, we can pray in a rave, and still consintrate on Allah and blank everything around them out.

    Pledge and pra'in is not equal. 1is to God. the other to the president. or w.e
    You guys pray in raves? And why would you even do that? Why would you go to a rave to pray, just totally no reason for that.

    You can say they blank it out all they want, they don't. Its called faking it, learn to realize that not everyone is as perfect as they seem bro.

    Pledge and public prayer have the same concept.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    You guys pray in raves? And why would you even do that? Why would you go to a rave to pray, just totally no reason for that.

    You can say they blank it out all they want, they don't. Its called faking it, learn to realize that not everyone is as perfect as they seem bro.

    Pledge and public prayer have the same concept.
    We fake it? like i said before. u have No faith.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    I like how you try to weasel your way out of every little point made.

    That is the sun setting behind the Ocean.
    Not into a murky pool of water as stated in the Qur'ran.

    Lol Catholics..I've stated before that they are a corrupt religion,
    There are Christians and Catholics. I stated CHRISTIANS don't idolize Mary.

    Also, you removed 2 paragraphs from the creation section I posted.
    That's where you come up with 6. Nice move snake boy.

    Ah and your last argument? HAHAHA
    Are you kidding me? It specifically states that Allah is the ONLY protector.
    I showed you the verses. So now your argument is what?
    Oh that's right you don't have one.


    Lastly I'd like to say this.

    So Muslims believe in the Virgin birth of Christ.
    Funny because this is in the Bible as well.
    But..wait..don't Muslims say the Bible is corrupted?
    So how is it that they believe in the Virgin birth as written in the BIBLE?
    Let me guess..you guys just pick and choose the corrupt parts.
    Gimme a break..

    Also..so Muslims believe that Christ was just a man serving God.
    Really? Do you know anyone else in history born from a virgin?
    Anyone in history that performed approximately 40 miracles?
    How can you even logically try to comprehend that Christ was just a man?
    How can you Hold Muhammad in such high regard, yet there is no teachings of Christ in the Qur'ran, but you all love Jesus too? Lies.

    Jesus healed a blind man.
    Muhammad turned one away from him.

    and that's is your holy prophet.
    Pool of murky water is a freaking ocean idiot, an ocean is full of salt, thus making it murky.

    Don't escape the catholic vs christian shit, Catholics follow the bible right? Catholics is like christians with a bit of changed rules.

    And Christians are pagans, that statue of jesus all christians walk around with, is more important than there lives...

    I removed 2 paragraphs? Haha, PRooF SoN. ...Ill qoute it:

    Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly say that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But then there is also the following passage:

    Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days
    And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.
    REMEMBER = 2

    He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,
    and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things
    to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days
    in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).
    2 + 2 = 4

    Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky,
    and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth:
    "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly."
    They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

    So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO Days,
    and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command.
    And We adorned the lower heaven with lights,
    and (provided it) with guard.
    Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.
    2+2=4 + 2 = 6

    -- Sura 41:9-12 (Yusuf Ali)

    altogether these are EIGHT Days.
    L2count

    --

    Allah is the only protecter. angels protecting someone is like a mother protecting her son. theres a difference right?

    A mother protecting her son.
    A angel protecting those who are good.
    Allah guiding all whom he chooses. and protecting all whom submits to him.

    If u don't understand, go learn some English.

    --

    So Muslims believe in the Virgin birth of Christ.
    Funny because this is in the Bible as well.
    But..wait..don't Muslims say the Bible is corrupted?
    So how is it that they believe in the Virgin birth as written in the BIBLE?
    Let me guess..you guys just pick and choose the corrupt parts.
    Gimme a break..


    We believe the same thing written in the quran which is in the bible.
    We don't believe jesus is god because its not in the quran, this point is the worst i've seen u make. so ...stupid?

    We know the corrupt parts because the bible is changing. the bible isn't Gods word nor equal to the quran, because the bible now is just a re-write which is unaccurate.

    decades without a bible, then christians rewrite there own one..smart.

    --
    Also..so Muslims believe that Christ was just a man serving God.
    Really? Do you know anyone else in history born from a virgin?
    Anyone in history that performed approximately 40 miracles?
    How can you even logically try to comprehend that Christ was just a man?
    How can you Hold Muhammad in such high regard, yet there is no teachings of Christ in the Qur'ran, but you all love Jesus too? Lies.

    Jesus healed a blind man.
    Muhammad turned one away from him.

    and that's is your holy prophet.
    Do you know anyone else in history born from a virgin?
    Adam and eve are a greater miracle then Jesus.

    Anyone in history that performed approximately 40 miracles?
    Moses did a greater miracle and split the sea in half, lifting the dead sounds good, but go ahead and split the sea in two.
    How can you even logically try to comprehend that Christ was just a man?
    Ah, i've noticed u just follow men who do miracles. Did u know the anti christ will come and perform miracles like moving mountains, changing the day to night, and make food and wine appear out of knowhere? good luck not following him when he arrives.

    Jesus used Gods help:

    Luk 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.


    How can you Hold Muhammad in such high regard, yet there is no teachings of Christ in the Qur'ran, but you all love Jesus too?
    Theres no teachings?
    Code:
    "Behold! the angels said, 'Oh Mary! God gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him. His name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter, and in (the company of) those nearest to God. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. He shall be (in the company) of the righteous... And God will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel'" (3:45-48).
    
    "When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: 'Now I have come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which you dispute. Therefore, fear God and obey me. God, He is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him -- this is a Straight Way.' But sects from among themselves fell into disagreement. So woe to the wrongdoers, from the penalty of a Grievous Day!" (43:63-65)
    
    "And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: 'Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?' He will say: 'Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: 'Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things'" (5:116-117).
    
    "Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" (5:75).
    
    "He [Jesus] said: 'I am indeed a servant of God. He has given me revelation and made me a prophet; He has made me blessed wheresoever I be; and He has enjoined on me prayer and charity as long as I live. He has made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable. So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!' Such was Jesus the son of Mary. It is a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is" (19:30-35).
    Hmm, and u still think Jesus isn't in the quran?

    Wow i've never beat 2 people at the same time, Im blessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    Hi there ladies and gents.

    Mr. IrateMuslim thinks the Qur'an is Perfect. Written by God himself.
    I will show you that he is mislead, like millions of others.

    My first example will be scientific proof. Irrefutable and not even debatable.

    He [i.e. Zul-qarnain] followed, until he reached the setting of the sun. He found it set in a spring of murky water.
    (Surah XVIII ( Kahf) vs. 85-86)

    To the early Muslims, this surah gave the divine answer as to why darkness fell when the sun set in the West. They assumed that the sun, like the moon, was the size perceived by the human eye, about the size of a basketball. Darkness came when with a mighty hissing roar it went down under the dark waters of a pond. They boldly and proudly proclaimed that this marvelous answer proved that the Qur'an was indeed the Word of God.

    So..the sun sets into a pool of water?
    Interesting. You would think God, the almighty creator would know otherwise.


    [5:116] GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.

    Really? So it's Father, mother, Holy spirit?
    Christians idolize Mary? Nope.


    We are first told that Allah came to Muhammad in the form of a man and that Muhammad saw him (Suras 53:2-18, 81:19-24).

    Then we are told that it was the "Holy Spirit" who came to Muhammad (Suras 16:102; 26:192-194).

    ater on, the Quran says that the angels were the ones who came down to Muhammed (Sura 15:6-8).

    The last and most popular version is that it was the angel Gabriel who delivered the Quran to Muhammed (Sura 2:97).

    Ok Allah..So which one is it? Who was the Qur'an mail man?
    You? The Holy spirit? Angels? Or Gabriel?

    Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly say that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But then there is also the following passage:

    Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days
    And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.

    He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,
    and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things
    to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days
    in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).

    Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky,
    and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth:
    "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly."
    They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

    So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO Days,
    and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command.
    And We adorned the lower heaven with lights,
    and (provided it) with guard.
    Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.
    -- Sura 41:9-12 (Yusuf Ali)

    altogether these are EIGHT Days.


    Hmm 6 days or 8 days of creation Allah?


    "Besides Allah you have NO protector nor helper" [ S.2:107, 29:22]

    But in Sura 41:31 the angels themselves say:

    "We are your protectors in this life and the Hereafter."

    Found another boo-boo there Allah.

    The Quran says that there is no other judge besides Allah and that he doesn’t allow anyone to share in his decision-making or rule:

    Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers. S. 6:114


    But elsewhere in the Quran Muhammad is said to share in Allah’s decisions and judgments:

    O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end. S. 4:59


    I got plenty more Visible baby.
    Open up and say ALLAAAAH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    Jesus never taught to idolize Mary. This was never anywhere in the Bible.
    So why would Allah even say this?

    Christians don't idolize Mary..
    obviously she is respected, but idolized no.

    I am on the right path btw. As far away from you Jihad lunatics as possible.
    Haha, lets take a statue, pretend it cried and worship it. PAGAN ALERT

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    Pretend it cried? Wut?

    Is that like saying abraham lincoln is pagan?


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    there is many books to explain the quraan and have more than 1 explanation

    and if u don't belive that u will belive it in hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_z_king View Post
    there is many books to explain the quraan and have more than 1 explanation

    and if u don't belive that u will belive it in hell
    lol confused me

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_z_king View Post
    there is many books to explain the quraan and have more than 1 explanation

    and if u don't belive that u will belive it in hell
    :/

    thats the same with ALL religions, if you don't believe you burn in hell.

    -.- seriously, all the religions have that same logic.


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