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    Greatest Prophet

    Its come to my attention that Muhammed is considered the "greatest prophet" to muslims.

    Which aroused my suspicion of why?

    Muhammed really didn't do anything in terms of miracles. He made other people submit to his religion after conquering him with his army(gathered through Islam), and He really didn't have any of the presence of any of the prophet before him.

    So I asked mr. muslim, and he said "because the quran said so."


    And then i wondered to myself, do they really think muhammed is the greatest prophet just because "the quran said so"?

    I mean he wrote the quran more or less, and then it says he is the "greates prophet", do people really believe that?


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    The reason why he is so popular, because he created something that united the Mecca tribes. He wasn't just a general, but then again.. Christians did the same thing as the Muslims did. It was how it was back in the days, you know?

    He was/is famous because he was the last line of Islamic prophets. Adam being the first and him being the last. He was famous because of his ways, he was a diplomat, a leader, a general, a shepard, etc. But pretty much he is famous for creating Islam, Islam united the people of the Middle East. Before Islam was created, there wasn't countries or anything.. it was just tribes and when created Islam, it removed the tribes.

    They don't view him as the greatest, they view him as very honorable and with high respect because he was the last known prophet to exist. I'm not the one defending Islam or Mohammed. But, I figured I would clear things up before some moron does, you know?

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    I've displayed a similar opinion about Islam at a previous post.
    The problem with Islam is that people can trick Muslims into doing things their religion doesn't do!Like it happened so many times.That's mostly because the majority of muslims doesn't get a proper education,or doesn't learn to think if they actually get an education...this happens everywhere now anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Its come to my attention that Muhammed is considered the "greatest prophet" to muslims.

    Which aroused my suspicion of why?

    Muhammed really didn't do anything in terms of miracles. He made other people submit to his religion after conquering him with his army(gathered through Islam), and He really didn't have any of the presence of any of the prophet before him.

    So I asked mr. muslim, and he said "because the quran said so."


    And then i wondered to myself, do they really think muhammed is the greatest prophet just because "the quran said so"?

    I mean he wrote the quran more or less, and then it says he is the "greates prophet", do people really believe that?
    Mr. Muslim (Obviously himself)

    No Muslim ever says "because the quran says so" so don't try trolling

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    Muhammed isn't the greatest prophet, he was the last, hes loved because he was the chosen one, the last one, and the one handed the last revelation's to.

    *Say ye: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God." Quran 2:136



    The Noble Qur'an 2:285
    The Messenger (Muhammad ) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allâh, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)."


    The Noble Qur'an 4:152
    And those who believe in Allâh and His Messengers and make no distinction between any of them (Messengers), We shall give them their rewards, and Allâh is Ever Oft*Forgiving, Most Merciful.
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    Also wondering, how come he was the last/???

    I mean christianity/Judaism ends with whoever, and like around.....500 to 1000 years later, another prophet comes up.

    :/ Why can there not be any more prophets? That just seems silly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    :/ Why can there not be any more prophets? That just seems silly.
    There is one coming. Guess who

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    There is one coming. Guess who
    I don't know, who? The bible/quran really doesn't "foretell" prophets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    I don't know, who? The bible/quran really doesn't "foretell" prophets.
    Jesus..? -

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    Jesus..? -
    How is Jesus supposed to come after the quran? In what way would that work in Islam?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    I don't know, who? The bible/quran really doesn't "foretell" prophets.
    Jesus second comming
    And mahdi arrival.

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    Mahdi will get rid of the corrupted governments for 7years then die.
    Isa PBUH will arrive to fight the anti christ.

    --

    The anti christ will decieve people pretending to be Jesus, not by looks but by miracles.

    His steps:

    1) Claim to be a king, will rule a country for a long period of time.
    2) Claim to be a prophet, will be followed.
    3) Claim to be god, will be worshiped.

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    Then Isa will come (Jesus will come).

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    What christians all mistake with is that they say "Jesus did miracles, mohammed didn't". does the anti christ do miracles to decieve people? YES HE DOES.

    but because he does miracles it doesn't mean hes God.

    The anti christ will strip god from all his powers, "ressurection, spawning.."

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    How is Jesus supposed to come after the quran? In what way would that work in Islam?
    What? ...

    Muslims believe Jesus never died and never got ressurected, and is up with God, and we believe Jesus will return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Para DICE View Post
    Jesus second comming


    1) Claim to be a king, will rule a country for a long period of time.
    2) Claim to be a prophet, will be followed.
    3) Claim to be god, will be worshiped.




    That sounds like any dictator really
    more like Kim Jong Il


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    Quote Originally Posted by Para DICE View Post
    Muslims believe Jesus never died and never got ressurected, and is up with God, and we believe Jesus will return.
    Really? so you got a quote from the quran about this? This is pretty interesting.

    I would think they wouldn't copy revalations and shit, especially since it was written by john.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaT- View Post


    That sounds like any dictator really
    more like Kim Jong Il
    He's just sick, he has no followers just prisoners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaT- View Post


    That sounds like any dictator really
    more like Kim Jong Il
    catholics believe similar things to muslims except jesus dieing n all but they also believe there are many anti-christs and only the true anti-christ will have a global following

    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Really? so you got a quote from the quran about this? This is pretty interesting.

    I would think they wouldn't copy revalations and shit, especially since it was written by john.
    muslims are christians with a warped point of view
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney Franklin View Post
    catholics believe similar things to muslims except jesus dieing n all but they also believe there are many anti-christs and only the true anti-christ will have a global following



    muslims are christians with a warped point of view
    thats all
    you're an idiot that can't speak (in this case,type) his language correctly.
    and most of your posts are plain bs.Don't smoke weed before you start typing.
    Go annoy someone else,the mpgh muslim annoying business is taken.
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