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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Well in relation.

    Some guy makes up a book, and says its from god. With no proof and in private.

    Same thing Joseph smith did.

    :/
    Yes, but Joseph Smith did this after Islam..
    So a Muslims retort would be pretty simple.


    "Joseph Smith ripped off Muhammed"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yes, but Joseph Smith did this after Islam..
    So a Muslims retort would be pretty simple.


    "Joseph Smith ripped off Muhammed"
    But the relation is that they both made it up.

    In this case it wouldn't matter who was first really. In relation to each other they both made up the religion and gained profit in their lifetime because of it.

    I could also relate this to scientology.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    Islam is one of those religions i will never understand.

    It has more laws, its creation is the same from the mormons, and its selling point people promote is "peace", which is great and all, but ghandi was more peaceful than any Muslim i've ever heard of.

    Islam restricts freedoms for no absolute reason.

    :/ Thats the main one, i'd rather not be a Muslim just for the fact that i know these "laws" and rules are just made to suppress the population.
    On what points does Islam restrict freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post
    But the relation is that they both made it up.
    It is way to much to made it all up. You must be really intelligent to made it all up as the koran has so many things.

    Maybe you can do some research yourself to see why some people have converted to Islam. Just to see why they've done it and also about the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

    Every one who can use his mind and search through the true Sources, must find the real Beauty of islam.

    Instead of just picking the bad points out of it.

    Like oh a woman has to wear a hijab -> Bad

    It is most likely for a reason. I am just saying though.

    Questions for non-Muslims.

    http://bilalphilips.com/printer_friendly.php?c=243
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    fine no one read my post -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by hackzerz View Post
    islam is a religion u are made muslim when u are born, and its frowned upon if u change ur religion. its not really an option im christian and i know that everyone is the same, no matter what religion although some religions dislike eachother (i get the feeling islam and jews but the truth is we are all the same everyone has an oppinion so in a way we are all wrong or even all right!!
    but the bad image is the terrorists! i dont see how they can be muslim (commandment- do not kill) and think they are going to "paradise" if they break the laws of islam, theyr so stupid :/ but all religions has flaws..
    eg. christianity
    the priest people make it look bad by raping children or something, idk the story behind it
    islam = terrorists
    jewish- its not jews themself its israel that make jews look bad bye bieng accused for attacking arab/muslim countries but in fact the israel had rights to attack, or wat ever
    idk about other religions but yeh
    this took me ages to write so can i have a cookie or +rep/thank
    thanks
    ***to recap***
    everyone is a sinner but everyone is different
    all religions are bad
    all religions are good!
    islam just looks bad becuase its hard to understand and becuase of terrorist
    sorry for my spelling errors i cant see shit at 3am xD
    Criticizing a whole group by the actions of just a few is terribly stupid.

    All these wars except the conflict between Israel and Palestine which i don't understand so quite well are war crimes. Well at least in my eyes.

    The populations in Arabic countries are beginning to protest against their corrupted government. Like Barack Obama said, it will never be the same as before.

    If these people put some Islamic extremist at the top than i am quite sure
    everything will come to an end. I am really curious about the future. What will happend with the relationship between the united states and the middle east? Aswell as for Israel.

    Time will tell and it could take a decade before we'll see changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    Criticizing a whole group by the actions of just a few is terribly stupid.

    All these wars except the conflict between Israel and Palestine which i don't understand so quite well are war crimes. Well at least in my eyes.

    The populations in Arabic countries are beginning to protest against their corrupted government. Like Barack Obama said, it will never be the same as before.

    If these people put some Islamic extremist at the top than i am quite sure
    everything will come to an end. I am really curious about the future. What will happend with the relationship between the united states and the middle east? Aswell as for Israel.

    Time will tell and it could take a decade before we'll see changes.
    thank u for taking ur time to read my post haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    On what points does Islam restrict freedom?


    It is way to much to made it all up. You must be really intelligent to made it all up as the koran has so many things.

    Maybe you can do some research yourself to see why some people have converted to Islam. Just to see why they've done it and also about the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

    Every one who can use his mind and search through the true Sources, must find the real Beauty of islam.

    Instead of just picking the bad points out of it.

    Like oh a woman has to wear a hijab -> Bad

    It is most likely for a reason. I am just saying though.

    Questions for non-Muslims.

    Dr.Bilal Philips' Official website
    Uh all the laws they made, restrict freedoms. No shit.

    Its "too much"? Really? Because he wrote it anyway, i don't see how you can possibly say its "too much" for him to make up.

    I do not give a fuck if some idiots convert to Islam. I can see the reason why people convert though. They like more rules.

    There is no beauty in Islam. You just overhype it like the artist do for their own paintings.

    Its called selling your item for more than its worth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Uh all the laws they made, restrict freedoms. No shit.

    Its "too much"? Really? Because he wrote it anyway, i don't see how you can possibly say its "too much" for him to make up.

    I do not give a fuck if some idiots convert to Islam. I can see the reason why people convert though. They like more rules.

    There is no beauty in Islam. You just overhype it like the artist do for their own paintings.

    Its called selling your item for more than its worth.
    ^This *lol*

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    its a religion ... everyone has an opinion my opinion is that in 1 year im gonna find a crossfire hack that never gets patched

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    ^This *lol*
    :/ i win. congrats.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    :/ i win. congrats.
    You did not win. I loll'd because your answers are always the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    You did not win. I loll'd because your answers are always the same.
    same thing could be said about visible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    You did not win. I loll'd because your answers are always the same.
    :/ Thats what i was thinking about your answers. Except since I answered last, you have no argument. tadaaa.


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    I don't understand how people can delude themselves to the extent where they can blindly follow any religion, especially Islam, in which people get pissy about people drawing muhammad's face and banning girls from wearing an oversized book sock over their heads (why would you want to walk around with those things on, doesn't your hair get frizzy from the heat?)

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    Choice and obedience are often blurred when it comes to religion.


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