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    Quote Originally Posted by hamada008 View Post
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    you are so brainwashed no wonder why you find it very difficult to humanly treat the ones whom never had anything to do with 9/11 but still get addressed by you and your ilk as enemies anyway.

    @ RJ

    This pic made me lol. AHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

    If we're comparing our mistreatment of people against Islamic mistreatment of people, guess who's going to look worse?

    Wanna know what Muslims did yesterday?
    2011.08.04 (Pattani, Thailand) - Muslim terrorists murder a married couple driving home from their job as laborers.
    2011.08.04 (Pattani, Thailand) - A teacher is gunned down in his home by Muslim 'insurgents'.
    2011.08.04 (Kunduz, Afghanistan) - Three young girls are among the casualites of a Taliban car bomb.

    It's an every day thing, and I mean, every fucking day, for the past idk... 1400 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamada008 View Post
    AHAH this is way too easy but I'll keep it simple for you, when and where exactly did Iraq attack you?
    I already talked about this elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by RJ View Post
    Technically we didn't need any excuse to invade. The authorization Congress provided Bush Sr in 1991 for Operation Desert Storm was still good. So your idea that we needed 9/11 to go to war is just stupid.

    Saddam wasn't complying with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire. He was a vicious dictator capable and willing to use weapons against other nations and his own people. Members of al-Qaeda and other international terrorist organizations where known to be in Iraq. That accoupled with Iraq's hostility toward the United States, alleged weapons of mass destruction, programs to develop such weapons, and our need to get boots on the ground justifies the use of military force against Iraq.

    The fact of the matter is, we are not at war with a nation, but a terrorist organization that's even today obviously tied into middle eastern governments (look where we found Bin Laden). If it where a nation this would of been an easy victory, but it isn't. Do you think Americans like being at war? No, but I'd much rather fight them on their soil then our own.

    Also we aren't forcing western values onto them, other then Democracy (Giving the power to the people). You can't just tear down a government and leave the people with nothing.

    Also, don't mock the soldiers for answering their country's call. Just because you're a shit bag with no sense of pride or patriotism doesn't mean you've got to slander our soldiers. Our country was born out of blood shed, and if there's something that's well known to the world, it's that freedom isn't free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ View Post

    This pic made me lol. AHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

    If we're comparing our mistreatment of people against Islamic mistreatment of people, guess who's going to look worse?

    Wanna know what Muslims did yesterday?
    2011.08.04 (Pattani, Thailand) - Muslim terrorists murder a married couple driving home from their job as laborers.
    2011.08.04 (Pattani, Thailand) - A teacher is gunned down in his home by Muslim 'insurgents'.
    2011.08.04 (Kunduz, Afghanistan) - Three young girls are among the casualites of a Taliban car bomb.

    It's an every day thing, and I mean, every fucking day, for the past idk... 1400 years!

    @hamada008
    Exactly.

    @hamada008
    And not to mention you can't say "stuff happens in the US too" because we might have crime but it's not fucking Muslim terrorism.

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    Why have so many people turned this thread into an Islam vs. America thread?

    America and it's relation to Islamic structured countries is absolutely irrelevant here.

    The point of this thread is to show you people how fundamentally, this system is flawed
    and it's boasts of advocating peace are pretty much lies.
    The majority of the attacks shown in OP are attacks against people located in the middle eastern region. Not America.

    Thank you for reading. Now back to obscurity with me, for this place is damned.
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    Yesterday in Pattani Thailand three Buddhists where shot point blank by Muslim radicals. It's every day with this bullshit.
    Last edited by RJ; 08-06-2011 at 11:38 AM.

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    The only terrorrists are the palestinians and saudi's.

    What they do is "memorise" the whole quran and think they can do what every they want.
    So they think they can go killing people who are "bad" which they dont the true bad.

    theres different types of muslims. No need to always point out "MUSLIMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


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    *sigh* its always the same bullshit from you stupid muslims.

    Blaming america, doesn't make islam any more peaceful.

    You can go ahead and bullshit all you want on America, the topic is Islam less you forget, and its a shame that you un-intentionally admit that Islam is violent by not responding to the topic and trying to push it further away.
    Islam is violent against those who deserve it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin View Post
    The only terrorrists are the palestinians and saudi's.

    What they do is "memorise" the whole quran and think they can do what every they want.
    So they think they can go killing people who are "bad" which they dont the true bad.

    theres different types of muslims. No need to always point out "MUSLIMS"
    How can Palestinians be terrorist? For god sake.
    Saudi's are hypocrites. There is no doubt about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by RJ View Post
    Yesterday in Pattani Thailand three Buddhists where shot point blank by Muslim radicals. It's every day with this bullshit.
    This happens all over the world. Aswell as Atheistic radicals and other idiotic people who do the same shit against Muslims. That you even take the time to point that out you dumbass. Try to find something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    Islam is violent against those who deserve it.
    Jihad Comes to Rio: Muslim Kills 12 @ Kids School, Cites Islam in Suicide Note

    Yeah those kids got what was comming to em! Alhamdillullah!
    "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him. An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevs666 View Post
    Jihad Comes to Rio: Muslim Kills 12 @ Kids School, Cites Islam in Suicide Note

    Yeah those kids got what was comming to em! Alhamdillullah!
    Never heard of Kim De Gelder? He went to childcare and killed a lot of baby's.
    A christ did that and a muslim this and that. We can keep going.

    A muslim can do anything, aswell as a fucking christ and an antheist. Does any of the religions supports the horrible actions taken by these people? Of course not. Nuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    Never heard of Kim De Gelder? He went to childcare and killed a lot of baby's.
    A christ did that and a muslim this and that. We can keep going.

    A muslim can do anything, aswell as a fucking christ and an antheist. Does any of the religions supports the horrible actions taken by these people? Of course not. Nuff said.
    I never made the claim that atheists can't be violent, you on the other hand claimed

    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    Islam is violent against those who deserve it.
    Nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    Islam is violent against those who deserve it.
    Considering all the terrorist attacks are against civilians, and that muslims are the ones doing it...............

    I'd be hard pressed to say little jimmy of age 2 deserved to die because Islam said so.
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    The problem is that christians/athiest/ and w/e religion you want, don't do ANYWHERE near the amount of damage muslims do.

    There is never a need for violence, except for self defense. That which Islam has never shown.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    Never heard of Kim De Gelder? He went to childcare and killed a lot of baby's.
    A christ did that and a muslim this and that. We can keep going.

    A muslim can do anything, aswell as a fucking christ and an antheist. Does any of the religions supports the horrible actions taken by these people? Of course not. Nuff said.
    Oh give me a fucking break Lies.

    You are comparing a few isolated incidents to the violence unleashed on a mass scale by Muslims. You can argue belief all you want, what you can't argue is statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Considering all the terrorist attacks are against civilians, and that muslims are the ones doing it...............

    I'd be hard pressed to say little jimmy of age 2 deserved to die because Islam said so.
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    The problem is that christians/athiest/ and w/e religion you want, don't do ANYWHERE near the amount of damage muslims do.

    There is never a need for violence, except for self defense. That which Islam has never shown.
    You see? They are being invaded and terrorized and yet when they fight it's not self defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lies' View Post
    You see? They are being invaded and terrorized and yet when they fight it's not self defence.
    They fight?

    Tell me, how is bombing a pedestrian area, not even of the country they are at war with, fighting?

    Actions taken against military are NOT terrorist attacks. Actions taken against completely innocent civilians are though, and thats why you can't comprehend they aren't "defending" themselves at all, they are just killing people and using Islam as a means for justification.
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    That still would not explain 9/11 since they were not invaded, or the thousands of deaths caused without any relation to foreign powers and such.(before and after 9/11)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    They fight?

    Tell me, how is bombing a pedestrian area, not even of the country they are at war with, fighting?

    Actions taken against military are NOT terrorist attacks. Actions taken against completely innocent civilians are though, and thats why you can't comprehend they aren't "defending" themselves at all, they are just killing people and using Islam as a means for justification.
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    That still would not explain 9/11 since they were not invaded, or the thousands of deaths caused without any relation to foreign powers and such.(before and after 9/11)
    How come that no Muslim here says anything bad about them? I mean, not that they say anything good either. But if you ask, who do you support? They will most likely say the Muslims. If they where really so bad as how some of you have described then we would know? Or are we all just fucking blind?

    My brother told me once that he went to the mosque and they all had different opinions. How can we be one, if so many of us have different opinions he said. That's why we are so fucking idiots. My other brother actually supports the United States. A long time ago he told me that he likes Bush over Saddam. But then again, he drinks alcohol and smokes weed. So hes minds aren't clear. Because of these people, we can never truly fight back.

    And like i said before, the actions taken by the United States were unjust and normally a crime. But of course.. it's the United States..

    Empire, could you tell me one single thing that is good in Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Bawls View Post
    Oh give me a fucking break Lies.

    You are comparing a few isolated incidents to the violence unleashed on a mass scale by Muslims. You can argue belief all you want, what you can't argue is statistics.
    A few isolated incidents. If it was really how you described it, "mass scale"
    then how come i don't see it so many on the news?

    If it was really mass scale than it would have been shown on the news. And also, did you see what happen in Norway? Behring Breivik?
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