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    hahaha Its funny how you couldnt even show me 1 verse on the equality between Jesus and God. Why do christians worship him when HE NEVER ASKED TO BE WORSHIP, Why do they regard him as God or equal to God when HE NEVER SAID HE WAS GOD! Why the hec would Jesus tell his diciples to deny him Divinity......... Uhmmm thats like Muhammad telling the Muslims to lie to everyone about being a muslim. ITS NOT APART OF THE NATURE OF THE PROPHETS. Also, if Jesus was all knowing all mighty there were many signs in which proves he was a man. Such as the fruit proof i mentioned earlier. I've read the bible twice, hmmm I suggest you read YOUR OWN BIBLE you have just proven to be an ignorant fool about your own scriptures.


    Check this:

    a. Creation of the Universe in Six Days

    As per the Bible, in the first book of Genesis in Chapter On e, the universe was created in six days and each day is defined as a twenty-four hours period. Even though the Qur’an mentions that the universe was created in six ‘Ayyaams’, ‘Ayyaam’ is the plural of years; this word has two meanings: firstly, it means a standard twenty-four hours period i.e. a day, and secondly, it also means stage, period or epoch which is a very long period of time.

    When the Qur’an mentions that the universe was created in six ‘Ayyaams’, it refers to the creation of the heavens and the earth in six long periods or epochs; scientists have no objection to this statement. The creation of the universe has taken billions of years, which proves false or contradicts the concept of the Bible which states that the creation of the Universe took six days of twenty-four hour durations each.

    b. Sun Created After the Day

    The Bible says in chapter 1, verses 3-5, of Genesis that the phenomenon of day and night was created on the first day of creation of the Universe by God. The light circulating in the universe is the result of a complex reaction in the stars; these stars were created according to the Bible (Genesis chapter 1 verse 14 to 19) on the fourth day. It is illogical to mention the result that is the light (the phenomenon of day and night) was created on the first day of Creation when the cause or source of the light was created three days later. Moreover the existence of evening and morning as elements of a single day is only conceivable after the creation of the earth and its rotation around the sun. In contrast with the contents of the Bible on this issue, the Qur’an does not give any unscientific sequence of Creation. Hence it is absolutely absurd to say that Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) copied the passages pertaining to the creation of the universe from the Bible but missed out this illogical and fantastic sequence of the Bible.

    c. Creation of the Sun, The Earth and the Moon

    According to the Bible, Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verses 9 to 13, the earth was created on the third day, and as per verses 14 to 19, the sun and the moon were created on the fourth day. The earth and the moon emanated, as we know, from their original star, the Sun. Hence to place the creation of the sun and the moon after the creation of the earth is contrary to the established idea about the formation of the solar system.

    d. Vegetation Created on the third day and Sun on the fourth day

    According to the Bible, Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verses 11-13, vegetation was created on the third day along with seed-bearing grasses, plants and trees; and further on as per verses 14-19, the sun was created on the fourth day. How is it scientifically possible for the vegetation to have appeared without the presence of the sun, as has been stated in the Bible?

    If Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) was indeed the author of the Qur’an and had copied its contents from the Bible, how did he manage to avoid the factual errors that the Bible contains? The Qur’an does not contain any statements which are incompatible with scientific facts.

    e. The Sun and the Moon both Emit light

    According to the Bible both the sun and the moon emit their own light. In the Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verse 16 says, “And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night”.

    Science tells us today that the moon does not have its own light. This confirms the Qur’anic concept that the light of the moon is a reflected light. To think that 1400 years ago, Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) corrected these scientific errors in the Bible and then copied such corrected passages in the Qur’an is to think of something impossible.

    f. Adam the First man on Earth, lived 5,800 years ago

    As per the genealogy of Jesus Christ given in the Bible, from Jesus through Abraham (pbuh) to the first man on earth i.e. Adam (pbuh), Adam appeared on the earth approximately 5800 years ago:
    i) 1948 years between Adam (pbuh) and Abraham (pbuh)
    ii) Approximately 1800 years between Abraham (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
    iii) 2000 years from Jesus (pbuh) till today

    These figures are further confused by the fact that the Jewish calendar is currently on or about 5800 years old.

    There is sufficient evidence from archaeological and anthropological sources to suggest that the first human being on earth was present tens of thousands of years ago and not merely 5,800 years ago as is suggested by the Bible.

    The Qur’an too speaks about Adam (pbuh) as the first man on earth but it does not suggest any date or period of his life on earth, unlike the Bible - what the Bible says in this regard is totally incompatible with science.

    g. Noah and the Flood

    The Biblical description of the flood in Genesis chapter 6, 7 and 8 indicates that the deluge was universal and it destroyed every living thing on earth, except those present with Noah (pbuh) in the ark. The description suggests that the event took place 1656 years after the creation of Adam (pbuh) or 292 years before the birth of Abraham, at a time when Noah (pbuh) was 600 years old. Thus the flood may have occurred in the 21st or 22nd Century B.C.

    This story of the flood, as given in the Bible, contradicts scientific evidence from archaelogical sources which indicate that the eleventh dynasty in Egypt and the third dynasty in Babylonia were in existence without any break in civilisation and in a manner totally unaffected by any major calamity which may have occurred in the 21st century B.C. This contradicts the Biblical story that the whole world had been immersed in the flood water. In contrast to this, the Qur’anic presentation of the story of Noah and the flood does not conflict with scientific evidence or archaeological data; firstly, the Qur’an does not indicate any specific date or year of the occurance of that event, and secondly, according to the Qur’an the flood was not a universal phenomenon which destroyed complete life on earth. In fact the Qur’an specifically mentions that the flood was a localised event only involving the people of Noah.

    It is illogical to assume that Prophet Muhummad (pbuh) had borrowed the story of the flood from the Bible and corrected the mistakes before mentioning it in the Qur’an.

    h. Moses and Pharaoh of the Exodus

    The story of Moses (pbuh) and the Pharaoh of the Exodus are very much identical in the Qur’an and the Bible. Both scriptures agree that the Pharaoh drowned when he tried to pursue Moses (pbuh) and led the Israelites across a stretch of water that they crossed. The Qur’an gives an additional piece of information in Surah Yunus chapter 10 verse 92: “This day shall We save thee in thy body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! But verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!” [Al-Qur’an 10:92]

    Dr. Maurice Bucaille, after a thorough research proved that although Rameses II was known to have persecuted the Israelites as per the Bible, he actually died while Moses (pbuh) was taking refuge in Median. Rameses II’s son Merneptah who succeeded him as Pharaoh drowned during the exodus. In 1898, the mummified body of Merneptah was found in the valley of Kings in Egypt. In 1975, Dr. Maurice Bucaille with other doctors received permission to examine the Mummy of Merneptah, the findings of which proved that Merneptah probably died from drowning or a violent shock which immediately preceeded the moment of drowning. Thus the Qur’anic verse that we shall save his body as a sign, has been fulfilled by the Pharaohs’ body being kept at the Royal Mummies room in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

    This verse of the Qur’an compelled Dr. Maurice Bucaille, who was a Christian then, to study the Qur’an. He later wrote a book ‘The Bible, the Qur’an and Science’, and confessed that the author of the Qur’an can be no one else besides God Himself. Thus he embraced Islam.

    i. Qur’an is a book of Allah

    These evidences are sufficient to conclude that the Qur’an was not copied from the Bible, but that the Qur’an is the Furqaan - ‘the Criteria’ to judge right from wrong and it should be used to decipher which portion of the Bible may be considered as the Word of God.

    The Qur’an itself testifies in Surah Sajda chapter 32 verse 1 to 3 Alif Laam Meem. (This is) the revelation of the Book in which there is no doubt – from the Lord of the Worlds.Or do they say, ‘He has forged it’? Nay, it is the Truth from thy Lord, that thou mayest admonish a people to whom no warner has come before thee: in order that they may receive guidance.” [Al-Qur’an 32:1-3]

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    101 contradictions in the Bible:

    1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
    God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
    Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

    2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
    Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

    3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
    Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

    4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
    Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
    Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

    5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
    Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
    Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

    6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
    Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
    Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

    7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
    Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
    Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

    8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
    Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
    Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

    9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
    After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
    Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

    10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
    Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
    Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

    11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
    One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
    Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)

    12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
    Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
    Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)

    13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
    Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8)
    Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)

    14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
    Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
    Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)

    15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
    Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
    Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)

    16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
    Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
    Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)

    17. How many were the children of Zattu?
    Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
    Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

    18. How many were the children of Azgad?
    One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
    Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)

    19. How many were the children of Adin?
    Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
    Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)

    20. How many were the children of Hashum?
    Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
    Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)

    21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
    Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
    One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)

    22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
    29,818 (Ezra)
    31,089 (Nehemiah)

    23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?
    Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
    Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)

    24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother?
    Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
    Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)

    25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
    Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
    No (Joshua 15:63)

    26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
    Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
    Hell (Luke 3:23)

    27. Jesus descended from which son of David?
    Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
    Nathan(Luke3:31)

    28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?
    Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
    Neri (Luke 3:27)

    29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
    Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
    Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.

    30. Who was the father of Uzziah?
    Joram (Matthew 1:8)
    Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

    31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?
    Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
    Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)

    32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?
    Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
    But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16)

    33. Who was the father of Shelah?
    Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
    Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)

    34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
    Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
    No (John 1:19-21)

    35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne?
    Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
    No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30)

    36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?
    One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.
    Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.

    37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?
    By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
    His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)

    38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
    By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
    On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)

    39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead?
    Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died.
    No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death.

    40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?
    Yes (Mark 6:8)
    No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)

    41. Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?
    Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
    No (Luke 9:9)

    42. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
    Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
    No (John 1:32,33)

    43. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?
    Yes (John 1:32, 33)
    No (Matthew 11:2)

    44. According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?
    If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true (John 5:3 1)
    Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true (John 8:14)

    45. When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?
    Yes (Matthew 21:12)
    No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17)

    46. The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once?
    Yes. (Matthew 21:19)
    No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20)

    47. Did Judas kiss Jesus?
    Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
    No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12)

    48. What did Jesus say about Peters denial?
    The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times (John 13:38)
    Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times (Mark 14:30) . When the cock crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.

    49. Did Jesus bear his own cross?
    Yes (John 19:17)
    No (Matthew 27:31-32)

    50. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?
    Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
    No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)

    51. Did Jesus say anything secretly?
    No. I have said nothing secretly (John 18:20)
    Yes. He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him Why do you speak to them in parables? He said, To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given (Matthew 13: 1 0-11)

    52. Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?
    On the cross (Mark 15:23)
    In Pilates court (John 19:14)

    53. The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did both thieves mock Jesus?
    Yes (Mark 15:32)
    No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43)

    54. Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
    Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, Today you will be with me in Paradise (Luke 23:43)
    No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, I have not yet ascended to the Father (John 20:17)

    55. When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?
    Yes (Acts9:7)
    No (Acts22:9)

    56. When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling companions also fall to the ground?
    Yes (Acts 26:14)
    No (Acts 9:7)

    57. Did the voice spell out on the spot what Pauls duties were to be?
    Yes (Acts 26:16-18)
    No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he must do. (Acts9:7;22: 10)

    58. When the Israelites dwelt in Shittin they committed adultery with the daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in that plague?
    Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9)
    Twenty-three thousand (I Corinthians 10:8)

    59. How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?
    Seventy souls (Genesis 4 & 27)
    Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14)

    60. What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?
    He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
    He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)

    61. How did Judas die?
    After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
    After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)

    62. Why is the field called Field of Blood?
    Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8)
    Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19)

    63. Who is a ransom for whom?
    The Son of Man came...to give his life as a ransom for many (Mark 10:45). Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all... (I Timothy 2:5-6)
    The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright (Proverbs 21:18)

    64. Is the law of Moses useful?
    Yes. All scripture is... profitable... (2 Timothy 3:16)
    No. . . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness... (Hebrews 7:18)

    65. What was the exact wording on the cross?
    This is Jesus the King of the Jews (Matthew 27:37)
    The King of the Jews (Mark 15:26)
    This is the King of the Jews (Luke 23:38)
    Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews (John 19:19)

    66. Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?
    Yes (Matthew 14:5)
    No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)

    67. Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?
    Thaddaeus (Matthew 10: 1-4; Mark 3:13 -19)
    Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Lukes gospel (Luke 6:12-16)

    68. Jesus saw a man sitat the tax collectors office and called him to be his disciple. What was his name?
    Matthew (Matthew 9:9)
    Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27)

    69. Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?
    After (Mark 14:12-17)
    Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilates judgment hail because they wanted to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14)

    70. Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?
    Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42)
    No. (John 12:27)

    71. In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did he move away from his disciples to pray?
    Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
    One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46)

    72. Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer?
    Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9)
    Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42)

    73. What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
    Certainly this man was innocent (Luke 23:47)
    Truly this man was the Son of God (Mark 15:39)

    74. When Jesus said My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me ? in what language did he speak?
    Hebrew: the words are Eloi, Eloi ..(Matthew 27:46)
    Aramaic: the words are Eloi, Eloi .. (Mark 15:34)

    75. According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died?
    Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! (Luke 23:46)
    "It is finished" (John 19:30)

    76. When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
    Yes (Matthew 8:5)
    No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)

    77.
    Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17)
    Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)

    78.
    God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
    Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)

    79. Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
    No (John 3:13)
    Yes. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (2 Kings 2:11)

    80. Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread?
    Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
    Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)

    81. Was Jesus body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs?
    Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40)
    No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus) (Mark 16: 1)

    82. When did the women buy the spices?
    After the Sabbath was past (Mark 16:1)
    Before the Sabbath. The women prepared spices and ointments. Then, on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment (Luke 23:55 to 24:1)

    83. At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?
    Toward the dawn (Matthew 28: 1)
    When the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)

    84. What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?
    To anoint Jesus body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1)
    To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1)
    For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1)

    85. A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived?
    They saw that the stone was Rolled back (Mark 16:4) They found the stone rolled away from the tomb (Luke 24:2) They saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb (John 20:1)
    As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6)

    86. Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus body?
    Yes. A young man in a white robe (Mark 16:5). Two men ... in dazzling apparel later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote)
    No. Mary met no one and returned saying, They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him (John 20:2)

    87. When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react?
    Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9)
    On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him Teacher. Jesus said to her, Do not hold me... (John 20:11 to 17)

    88. What was Jesus instruction for his disciples?
    Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me (Matthew 2 8: 10)
    Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God (John 20:17)

    89. When did the disciples return to Galilee?
    Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee some doubted (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist
    After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them during forty days (Acts 1:3), and charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise ... (Acts 1:4)

    90. To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?
    To the Ishmaelites (Genesis 37:28)
    To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh (Genesis 37:36)

    91. Who brought Joseph to Egypt?
    The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then took Joseph to Egypt (Genesis 37:28)
    The Midianites had sold him in Egypt (Genesis 37:36)
    Joseph said to his brothers I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt (Genesis 45:4)

    92. Does God change his mind?
    Yes. The word of the Lord came to Samuel: I repent that I have made Saul King... (I Samuel 15:10 to 11)
    No. God will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should repent (I Samuel 15:29)

    Yes. And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over Israel (I Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions:

    i. The Lord was sorry that he made man (Genesis 6:6)

    I am sorry that I have made them (Genesis 6:7)

    ii. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people (Exodus 32:14).

    iii. (Lots of other such references).

    93. The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the magicians did the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat:
    Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood (Exodus 7:20-21)
    The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.

    94. Who killed Goliath?
    David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
    Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)

    95. Who killed Saul?
    Saul took his own sword and fell upon it.... Thus Saul died... (I Samuel 31:4-6)
    An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)

    96. Does every man sin?
    Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
    No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8)

    97. Who will bear whose burden?
    Bear one anothers burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2)
    Each man will have to bear his own load (Galatians 6:5)

    98. How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?
    Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
    Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)

    99. Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
    After his baptism, the spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days ... (Mark 1:12-13)
    Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second day: Jesus went to Galilee - two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)

    100. Was baby Jesus life threatened in Jerusalem?
    Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 23)
    No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40)

    101. When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?
    They worshipped him, saying, Truly you are the Son of God (Matthew 14:33)
    They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened (Mark 6:51-52)

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    Lol you didnt refute my other claims:P I read that site you gave me and let me tell you, alot of the stuff is complete bullocks..... Take a look at the contradictions yourself because some of the stuff mentionde on the site is nowhere to be seen in the bible. For example it claimed that Joab didnt count all the men but yet this concept was nowhere to be seen its just an assumption. Show me where Jesus claims he is God please? Also, could you explain the "terrorism" in the bible?

    Deuteronomy 20:16
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

    It is certainly the Bible's principle and foundation to kill all humans and animals from the enemy's side. If one wouldn't call that terrorism, war crimes and mass-murdering, then what else should they call it?

    Psalm 137:8-9
    8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
    9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!

    Moses' Commands for pedophilia against 3-year old slave girls do count against the Bible!

    As shown in the quotes below:
    "....The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157 comments on the above quoted commandment of MOSES to kill the Midianite women as well as the male children...."

    "....According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, MOSES therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]...."

    "Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse....."

    "A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old.".....

    I find it to be absolutely ridiculous that the bible feeds us all kinds of lies and contradictions about "love your enemy", and yet, we see mass slaughter of suckling infants and innocent boys, girls, unarmed men, women (old and young), and innocent domestic farm animals by the tens of thousands! It is clear that the inconsistent man-altered, man-corrupted and morally corrupt bible is nothing but a false book, and can not be a Divine and Perfect Holy Book!

    I challenge any Jew or Christian to produce ONE, JUST ONE Noble Verse from the Muslims' Noble Quran that condones killing of innocent children, women or even hostile enemy men who drop their weapons before Muslims (surrender).



    Now, show me WHERE THE QURAN MENTIONS KILLING INNOCENT LIVES!

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    yo brother jeehad i told you sfod does not like muslims or islam period. i don think you should waste ur time
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    Cause I'm tired of your Copying then Pasting, you still have not proven me wrong with what Muhammed copied wrong and mixed people up.

    JOHN 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

    Explain to me about Aisha, I don't think many people think marrying a 6 year old is okay.
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    My copying and pasting? Through out this debate you have not made 1 valid point or rebuttle against my claims without copying websites which sidetrack away from my point. You have proven to me that you aer unknowledgeable about the bible being the word of God. First of all, God sent a message down to Moses but his people corrupted it, God sent the message down to Jesus christ but his people corrupted it then God sent the same message down to Muhammad(pbuh), this final revelation is guarded by God almighty until the last day. Now, If you disbelieve me then find me one valid error in the Quran? I can find you HUNDREDS in the bible! If the quran was copied from the bible then suerly it would have a bunch of errors if not WORSE then the bible correct? Then tell me why I have brought forth many contradictions in the bible which left you tongue tied. Why won't you answer me about my contradctions? Why wont you refute anything? The answer is simple! You simply cant refuet logic. The bible is a word of Man! Historically,Scientifically,even mathematically the Quran comes out superior to the Bible. Secondly, the structure in which the quran was written is far more superior then the Bible. The Quran is like a poem, the entire thing rhymes together with knowledgable verses. Imagine.... A revelation which rhymes to keep it fresh in the minds of men but yet wiser then any scripture? The Bibles structure is full of third person views and annoited eye witnesses... Basically he/she said stuff! Its never the literal word of Jesus or god almighty.

    Aicha? lol this is a funny claim you make because this claim you make originates from a weak hadith claiming she was 6 years old. The literal age of aicha is uknown until this day. Anti Muslims love to make up this bullshit claim to demoralize the prophets values, reality is no she was not 6 years old! There are hadiths which claim she was 16, 21 25 but the literal age is unknown.Please, answer why God commanded moses to bash 3 year old suckling infants on the ground?

    Psalm 137:8-9
    8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
    9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!

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    Sniper: The story of Omar shows that anybody is capable of wisdom being thrust into them. Any1 is capable of realizing truth even george bush. Omar was 1 of the biggest enemies of Islam until he heard the beautiful recitation which lead him to beleive that tehre is no god but God and Muhammad is his messenger. Sf0d is ignorant in his views beacuse of those who teach him. they dont consider historical knowledge, they feed him lies and command him to read the parts of the bible which suits there own religious needs. there are people who read in between the lines and see the reality of the bible for what it is and sadly I was one of them. Yes, I was an Arab Christian 2 years ago at the age of 14 I started looking into the bible further and realized that it made absolutely no sense. I felt questions were arisen within me and nowhere did I find an answer until I discovered Islam. It was not the whole he/she said stuff, or the intermediataries, or it didnt even have superior people to speak to for religious guidance. Islam supported the 1 connection between you and God, all men were capable of communicating with God, and Gods revelation the Quran was a complete guide and way of life. This is why I bother with Sf0d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeehad View Post
    Sniper: The story of Omar shows that anybody is capable of wisdom being thrust into them. Any1 is capable of realizing truth even george bush. Omar was 1 of the biggest enemies of Islam until he heard the beautiful recitation which lead him to beleive that tehre is no god but God and Muhammad is his messenger. Sf0d is ignorant in his views beacuse of those who teach him. they dont consider historical knowledge, they feed him lies and command him to read the parts of the bible which suits there own religious needs. there are people who read in between the lines and see the reality of the bible for what it is and sadly I was one of them. Yes, I was an Arab Christian 2 years ago at the age of 14 I started looking into the bible further and realized that it made absolutely no sense. I felt questions were arisen within me and nowhere did I find an answer until I discovered Islam. It was not the whole he/she said stuff, or the intermediataries, or it didnt even have superior people to speak to for religious guidance. Islam supported the 1 connection between you and God, all men were capable of communicating with God, and Gods revelation the Quran was a complete guide and way of life. This is why I bother with Sf0d.
    yea true but ive tried to explain to sfod a lot of times hes so ignorant well the post before this is pure pwnage

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeehad View Post
    My copying and pasting? Through out this debate you have not made 1 valid point or rebuttle against my claims without copying websites which sidetrack away from my point. You have proven to me that you aer unknowledgeable about the bible being the word of God. First of all, God sent a message down to Moses but his people corrupted it, God sent the message down to Jesus christ but his people corrupted it then God sent the same message down to Muhammad(pbuh), this final revelation is guarded by God almighty until the last day. Now, If you disbelieve me then find me one valid error in the Quran? I can find you HUNDREDS in the bible! If the quran was copied from the bible then suerly it would have a bunch of errors if not WORSE then the bible correct? Then tell me why I have brought forth many contradictions in the bible which left you tongue tied. Why won't you answer me about my contradctions? Why wont you refute anything? The answer is simple! You simply cant refuet logic. The bible is a word of Man! Historically,Scientifically,even mathematically the Quran comes out superior to the Bible. Secondly, the structure in which the quran was written is far more superior then the Bible. The Quran is like a poem, the entire thing rhymes together with knowledgable verses. Imagine.... A revelation which rhymes to keep it fresh in the minds of men but yet wiser then any scripture? The Bibles structure is full of third person views and annoited eye witnesses... Basically he/she said stuff! Its never the literal word of Jesus or god almighty.

    Aicha? lol this is a funny claim you make because this claim you make originates from a weak hadith claiming she was 6 years old. The literal age of aicha is uknown until this day. Anti Muslims love to make up this bullshit claim to demoralize the prophets values, reality is no she was not 6 years old! There are hadiths which claim she was 16, 21 25 but the literal age is unknown.Please, answer why God commanded moses to bash 3 year old suckling infants on the ground?

    Psalm 137:8-9
    8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
    9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!
    Eye for an Eye

    http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/

    Its in the dang Qur'an or is it CORRUPTED?
    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...ml#005.058.234
    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...ml#007.062.064
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    ok sf0d. ive had enough of your shit.


    prove to me that your god exists and your religion is right. right now. i want hard physical evidence. no "well the bible says" or "well some opinions will state"

    physical evidence that cannot be contradicted that your religion is right. right now. or shut up

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace76543 View Post
    ok sf0d. ive had enough of your shit.


    prove to me that your god exists and your religion is right. right now. i want hard physical evidence. no "well the bible says" or "well some opinions will state"

    physical evidence that cannot be contradicted that your religion is right. right now. or shut up
    The Moon if one mile closer would cause Tsunamis every day, one mile back there would be no tides, coincidence, I think not.

    The Laws of Thermodynamics. The human body is further proof, you you can not splash paint on a piece of paper and do the Mona Lisa nor can you make the human body, how come there is no human that has some organ that another one does not?

    Humans make Humans, nothing else, you cannot have sex with a monkey and make some in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sf0d View Post
    The Moon if one mile closer would cause Tsunamis every day, one mile back there would be no tides, coincidence, I think not.
    yes coincidence. you realise how many planets there are out there? there had to be ONE with perfect living conditions. AND WOULDNT YOU KNOW IT. we ended up on it

    Quote Originally Posted by sf0d View Post
    The Laws of Thermodynamics. The human body is further proof, you you can not splash paint on a piece of paper and do the Mona Lisa nor can you make the human body, how come there is no human that has some organ that another one does not?
    because we were all the same to begin with..theres nothing else we really need...we've adapted over billions of years to create the perfect human body

    Quote Originally Posted by sf0d View Post
    Humans make Humans, nothing else, you cannot have sex with a monkey and make some in between.
    k yea this one makes no sense.i really dont see how this is proof of god

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace76543 View Post
    yes coincidence. you realise how many planets there are out there? there had to be ONE with perfect living conditions. AND WOULDNT YOU KNOW IT. we ended up on it



    because we were all the same to begin with..theres nothing else we really need...we've adapted over billions of years to create the perfect human body



    k yea this one makes no sense.i really dont see how this is proof of god
    Humans make Humans only so then that would make it impossible that we evolved from something else because we could not make a in between, should have gone with DNA. This is proof because theres too many coincidences do you read things form 2000 years ago and see that there is something different cause I don't. Law of Thermodynamics is no matter can be created so how can it happen if no matter can be created unless its by a all powerful God?

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