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    Quote Originally Posted by Terio View Post
    because of the "9/11", an organised US attack just to frame Muslims and because that Jews control a good part of USA economy and Jews hate muslims so USA helps Isreal in any way.
    Pretty sure because we (Britain) funded the taliban to control Afghanistan for us, then invaded Afghanistan, because they had so much oil, and bought it dirt cheap. They then realised they should be getting way more, when they confronted us we declined to pay them a fair price, and so using the funding we gave them (For letting us have fuel and controlling Afghanistan) they organised 9/11.

    Edit: Sometimes we like to believe we're the good guys, the Taliban organised a terror strike out of nowhere, but that's not the truth. They Afghanistan people/muslims believe we're the bad guys, and they're probably correct.
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    yeah in finland there are a lot of muslims just let into the country because their homes were destroyed. I think america should get a grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hezz View Post
    Pretty sure because we (Britain) funded the taliban to control Afghanistan for us, then invaded Afghanistan, because they had so much oil, and bought it dirt cheap. They then realised they should be getting way more, when they confronted us we declined to pay them a fair price, and so using the funding we gave them (For letting us have fuel and controlling Afghanistan) they organised 9/11.

    Edit: Sometimes we like to believe we're the good guys, the Taliban organised a terror strike out of nowhere, but that's not the truth. They Afghanistan people/muslims believe we're the bad guys, and they're probably correct.
    Oh hey, masochism and white guilt.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoGuEATLAS View Post
    yeah in finland there are a lot of muslims just let into the country because their homes were destroyed. I think america should get a grip.
    I have many friends from Islamic countries. They love the people of the country, but recognize it's always been in a shit state of affairs.

    Don't put this shit on America because the derps in the middle east are still living in the middle ages.

    (On a side note, why is America always the one who has to solve everything?)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post

    Oh hey, masochism and white guilt.
    I'm sorry, where did I even insinuate I derived pleasure from suffering or pain? I never said I support anything or visa versa about how most Afghanistan or Muslim people as-well as the Taliban have been treated? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at by saying I am a masochist?

    I never even said I feel guilt about what has happened. I said I feel it is wrong. I'm not even white, so nice assumption there.

    I do not support what has been done to the group being discussed in OP, however I feel nothing could justify what they have done in return. I feel both sides are to blame, even though group discussed in OP did not start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hezz View Post
    I'm sorry, where did I even insinuate I derived pleasure from suffering or pain? I never said I support anything or visa versa about how most Afghanistan or Muslim people as-well as the Taliban have been treated? I'm not quite sure what you're getting at by saying I am a masochist?

    I never even said I feel guilt about what has happened. I said I feel it is wrong. I'm not even white, so nice assumption there.

    I do not support what has been done to the group being discussed in OP, however I feel nothing could justify what they have done in return. I feel both sides are to blame, even though group discussed in OP did not start.
    Uh......your whole post was blaming britain, aka "yourself". (Did you just look up masochism? Heh)

    "White guilt" is a generic term, but yeah, it's basically "we aren't as fucked as them, so lets be masochistic and blame ourselves for their problems".

    Basically you'll end up blaiming britain, then saying "we should help them because it's our responsibility" and etc. It's fucking retarded tbh.
    Quote Originally Posted by hezz View Post
    Pretty sure because we (Britain) funded the taliban to control Afghanistan for us, then invaded Afghanistan, because they had so much oil, and bought it dirt cheap. They then realised they should be getting way more, when they confronted us we declined to pay them a fair price, and so using the funding we gave them (For letting us have fuel and controlling Afghanistan) they organised 9/11.

    Edit: Sometimes we like to believe we're the good guys, the Taliban organised a terror strike out of nowhere, but that's not the truth. They Afghanistan people/muslims believe we're the bad guys, and they're probably correct.
    Masochistic as fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post


    Uh......your whole post was blaming britain, aka "yourself". (Did you just look up masochism? Heh)

    "White guilt" is a generic term, but yeah, it's basically "we aren't as fucked as them, so lets be masochistic and blame ourselves for their problems".

    Basically you'll end up blaiming britain, then saying "we should help them because it's our responsibility" and etc. It's fucking retarded tbh.


    Masochistic as fuck.


    I believe myself to be rather well educated, and have a good understanding of what masochism is. I have never heard of or pondered any definition that could relate to what I stated. I never said we should help them because we were previously unfair etc towards them.

    Please don't try to read messages that aren't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hezz View Post
    I believe myself to be rather well educated, and have a good understanding of what masochism is. I have never heard of or pondered any definition that could relate to what I stated. I never said we should help them because we were previously unfair etc towards them.

    Please don't try to read messages that aren't there.
    Forget it, too hard of a concept I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire View Post

    Forget it, too hard of a concept I guess.
    Would seem so as you cannot grasp the meaning of masochism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hezz View Post
    Would seem so as you cannot grasp the meaning of masochism.
    I can. You are setting yourself up to be blamed, in fact just blaming yourself outright. As if you want some sort of punishment.

    :/ I kinda already figured you were looking up masochism in the dictionary and didn't understand the definition, so just forget it, it went above your head and it's over.


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    I think there is a lot of Misconception towards the muslim population. don't think Islam teaches killing of people and the cruelty acts that we heard of .Most of the misconception stems from the Terrorist USING Islam and taking out the context of the koran to justify their means.
    As I have stated earlier - would like to see more Muslim countries that are NOT involve in Islam extremist to Stand up and UNITE to DENOUNCE these Extremist to restore back the good name of Islam. Sadly, most of them have been SILENT !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by niteghost View Post
    I think there is a lot of Misconception towards the muslim population. don't think Islam teaches killing of people and the cruelty acts that we heard of .Most of the misconception stems from the Terrorist USING Islam and taking out the context of the koran to justify their means. [/b]
    Boy do I wish that was true. But it's not. The terrorist aren't a new concept for the Muslim world. People have been using the Quran and even "Allah" himself to justify war, civil rights violants, and violence for over a thousand years in the Muslim world.

    Quote Originally Posted by niteghost View Post
    As I have stated earlier - would like to see more Muslim countries that are NOT involve in Islam extremist to Stand up and UNITE to DENOUNCE these Extremist to restore back the good name of Islam. Sadly, most of them have been SILENT !!
    Most of them have been "silent" because in a lot of cases the people will support the terrorist.

    Trust me, no terrorist organization that big is possible without local support.


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    Quote Originally Posted by niteghost View Post
    I think there is a lot of Misconception towards the muslim population. don't think Islam teaches killing of people and the cruelty acts that we heard of .Most of the misconception stems from the Terrorist USING Islam and taking out the context of the koran to justify their means.
    As I have stated earlier - would like to see more Muslim countries that are NOT involve in Islam extremist to Stand up and UNITE to DENOUNCE these Extremist to restore back the good name of Islam. Sadly, most of them have been SILENT !!
    You are an intelligent person. A lot of Muslims have stood up against it but it isn't in the main headlines in the media. The reason is because stories about Muslims standing up to extremists doesn't sell because no one wants to hear that. What everyone wants to hear is that Islam wants to take over the world so they have something to blame. Similar story to the Jews in Germany after WW1.
    Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.

    Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
    This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
    Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
    And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
    Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
    Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinvanpersie View Post
    You are an intelligent person. A lot of Muslims have stood up against it but it isn't in the main headlines in the media. The reason is because stories about Muslims standing up to extremists doesn't sell because no one wants to hear that. What everyone wants to hear is that Islam wants to take over the world so they have something to blame. Similar story to the Jews in Germany after WW1.
    Obviously not the vast majority of muslims though.

    And please, elaborate how the Muslism are similar to the jews after WWI, because last time I checked the middle east pretty much said "fuck the jews" when hitler rose to power.


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    Quote Originally Posted by niteghost View Post
    I think there is a lot of Misconception towards the muslim population. don't think Islam teaches killing of people and the cruelty acts that we heard of .Most of the misconception stems from the Terrorist USING Islam and taking out the context of the koran to justify their means.
    The problem with thinking like that is that in reality they aren't necessarily wrong in using the Quran to sanction their actions because it contains stories in which Muslims are allowed to strike back against those deemed as threats. Though some Muslims might simply play this off as a metaphor, the "extremists" can just as easily declare them as religious statutes.[/B]
    "A Man Who Is Too Afraid To Admit His Fears Is A Man Who Won't Overcome Them.
    There Is Liberty In Confession And Freedom In Acknowledgment."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_9 View Post


    The problem with thinking like that is that in reality they aren't necessarily wrong in using the Quran to sanction their actions because it contains stories in which Muslims are allowed to strike back against those deemed as threats. Though some Muslims might simply play this off as a metaphor, the "extremists" can just as easily declare them as religious statutes.
    Yes they are wrong. Why are you talking about Islam when you know very little? When fighting is permitted in Islam: http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=841011
    Science is learning about the creation, Islam is learning about the creator.

    Alif, Lam, Meem. - 2:1 Quran
    This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah(God) - 2:2 Quran
    Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, - 2:3 Quran
    And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]. - 2:4 Quran
    Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful. - 2:5 Quran
    Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. - 2:6 Quran

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